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    Quote Originally Posted by gooey View Post
    Sorry, I totally forgot about this thread. I read it. It makes a lot of sense to me. The most out of any subtype theory I've seen to be honest. I've been meaning to discuss this with you, I just forgot. The descriptions are great and align with what I've seen in reality. I do have a couple of questions about it though. When they say "This means that EIM elements located in different vertical blocks in the model should be differently enhanced in representatives of different temperaments." they are reffering to energy and not information, correct?
    EIM is Energy-Information Metabolism.

    Also, this:

    "Our further observations indicate that within each of the 32 subtypes we can distinguish 8 variations associated with enhancement of certain elements of EIM, but no longer associated with temperaments, rather other physiological characteristics of the human central nervous system which also have been reflected in the model of EIM. This is covered in the next article "Bioaccentuation of type"."

    This would throw other sub-theories (relating to temperament) out the window, no? They are essentially saying there are 2 basic temperments and then 8 "variations associated with enhancement of certain elemeents of EIM". What might these affect? Also, have they done more studies on their "bioaccentuation of type"? I find that very interesting as they seem to want to mix this with scientific research.

    Again, sorry for such a delayed response.
    The Russian machine translations distorts the contextual understanding so I'm not really sure of what they are trying to communicate. I do know they use other subtypes/accentuations outside Inert-Contact.

    Quote Originally Posted by labocat View Post
    ok, i vaguely get what you're saying.

    this sounds like a rehash of the taciturn/narrator cycle theory claims. an expansion of the theory to include subtypes. i'm not a fan of subtypes but this is at least a small step removed from not being completely wrong.
    An expansion of theory to include Taciturn/Narrator cycles . I already agree with the N/T cycle stuff so I omitted that from your quotes in this response.

    the better approach to subtypes is to view them as temporary divergences of orientation. the type is static, the subtype is dynamic. sometimes this divergence becomes half settled in or attains an attachment to an environment or person. a person may be considered to consistently have a certain subtype within a certain environment. between people it is common for subtypes to become more closely matched as time progresses. this is what partly accounts for the "engine run-in" effect that gets mentioned in type relation descriptions sometimes.
    Perhaps. I have no idea whether subtypes are static or situational, but I can see them to some extent.

    however, this being said, most people can not even type accurately enough to type at 16 type accuracy and end up typing even worse when they try to increase the accuracy of their typings further.
    I agree but the data from the Typing Spreadsheet, and from what transpires on the forum, people are most inclined to appear as or get typed within these groupings. So actually instead of complicating the situation I think it clears problems up.

    please specify clearly that the NF in Ne-ENTp-NF is beta NF, not delta NF. same for all the other pairings.
    This is most likely right, I haven't put it down out of uncertainty and the possibility to mislead others.

    Quote Originally Posted by gooey View Post
    Also, who wrote the " article that takes a dichotomous approach to energy-information transference"? (Second to last link on socionks)
    Good question. Looks like DarkAngelFireWolf69.
    Last edited by EyeSeeCold; 02-10-2012 at 09:16 PM.
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