I must say though: with how rare 8 is of a type, 8 being the second most voted type here, is a falsehood in actuality of its course. In reality, most people who view themselves such, are sexual 6's, and fewer may be sexual 4's. I also doubt that 4 is most common type on the forum.
But our society does not really breed that many 8's.. Generally, an overly controlling parent, violent abuse, or something completely out of a child's control that steals away their innocence and makes them feel they need always be in control to guard their weakest spot, make someone of an 8. Abuse is common of course, but the kind that results in an 8, not as much as subtle emotional abuse forms and neglect, that plague our society.
Generally I am against gatekeeping, but 8 is most certainly an exception and it should be kept, because truly, there are far more sexual 6's and the occasional sexual 4 who will mistype their own self as an 8. Sexual 1 also can mistype 8 as well.
Most real 8's are going to be SLE, and a fewer, SEE.
8's in fiction, however, are common of course, with the nature of super hero complex, and villains often are 8 and 1.
When I was in the Facebook Enneagram 8 group, they were all goody two shoes who seem to have an abstract Woke sense of justice. I think the culture of the group is very Delta. They don't know what is real justice or injustice is. The Enneagram 8 community seem to be Te base who talk about productivity, work, responsibility, and wanting to be good. It makes sense that they are mistyped 1s and 3s. They often idealized so-called progressive good people (i.e. Aslan, MLK Jr, Mother Theresa, and even AOC) as being "8s." I don't even think any of them are 8s. MLK Jr and Mother Theresa are both 1s. AOC is a neurotic Prussian 6. Aslan is an 9w8.
Funny to say this, but I think the Facebook MBTI ESTP group (which is supposed to be for SLE and SEE) is more 8-ish than the enneagram 8 group.
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“Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
— James Russell Lowell猫が生き甲斐
As I explained with my own self, Social E6 and E4 often look identical.
I would personally put me money on 6 being the most common type here, and then 4, 5 and 9 being common as well here. The nature of 5 looking to explore and expand their understanding and studying patterns, and then somehow, 4 using this community to help them find and better understand their true self. But I don't think it would be most common. My money is on 6. The entire idea of having a community is for one, a very social focus, and community to 6 is very important more so than most other type, and since social 6 often mirror social 4, some people self-typing 4, may really be social 6.
6 to begin with is one of the most prevalent types in our society, with how society breeds people at a general, and 6 is a very versatile type in regards to Socio type.
I would put 8 and 7 as the most rare types to be seen on a forum as this, 7 being less likely to care about this and wanting go out, and 8 already being uncommon.
6 also doubting their own selves, are one of the most absolute likely to mistype their owns seven, therefore, they may be mistyping as other types outside of 4. Common mistypes for 6 can be 2 (community focused type, and feeling like they give themselves away, when they just want to give to community to ensure their support and protection), social 4 because validation is a need (but unlike 4, they do not strive to individuate and are more dwelling in anxiety and fear than are, shame), and 3 also can be very common because it can be the area of disintegration and with nature of this site, you may be more likely to find unhealthy people since many will use typology as means to improve their own life, indent yet being improved they are not at peak health which would expect from a 9. Because 6 already is very high here and it is one of the most likely types to mistype here, it probably already is guaranteed most common.
That is another thing; people will need account for their health level and to see if they are disintegrated or are functioning from their own type. Many people here probably are not in the knowing of what disintegration is, and are just going from mere pop psych sites.
How old the results are matter too, in contrast to how many people recently have voted. What may have been the most common type at one time, other almost equally common types could have by now, caught up, and maybe that also is in part of why the culture now looks far more 6.
I think true justice is reflecting the thing that needs for the situation.
There are just some times where only water can put out fire. And times when using water will deplete all your peace and not be able in the putting enough out, fire. There will be no peace/water left if you do not fight fire to fire. And make the one who has bigger flame dominate and suffocate the others.
The fact both beta and delta exists proves there is right timing for both methods, but the incorrect usage of method is what leads to ill. The incorrect timing, not using what needs at the given time for what is necessary.
It is symbolical beta comes before delta, and sometimes war and attrition must come for peace to prevail in its after.
There is time to rest, but you cannot rest until all that needs for rest to come, is no longer active and for it to threaten the peace that only will again awaken.
delta would be the last phase of life incarnation, where you have been through theater three ones, and then you go to a new beginning like alpha, in the other side of it all, after Earth.
The Ne helps one to explore the new world and then what will be after you graduate, and then in between the Ni helps one to focus on learning in life..
Then Fi in last phase helps one to close what they need and build what needs to next level and then the Ti in new life would help one to learn and figure out the working of that new life...
The 11 element list is confusing with these performing algorithms. Red being last in the race is sad and damaging, because I was always a trainer of light. Oh wait, it was pink that was last. Come to think of it, I'm not sure what this video is about... skipping ahead. Quadratic, Linear, and Comparison are very weird categories, like a span of time or eons forking and twirling into chaotic lanes of starting. Performing badly when lists are small? But I always rose above mundane restrictions and dominated existence with "millions and millions of elements"!!
Pokemon is somewhere fun over the Rainbow emblazoned by the Power of 4ever. The clouds soar and the island escalates a Lugia petal dance tempest blizzarding shiny Ash. Evanescence sparkles glistening auroras of mirth and high frequency channels embarking with the winds of new beginnings. This magical adventure turns on at the dawn of time in 2000. Ceremony and enchantment dazzle the world with colors galore. Mania and extravagance shape shift and transform into the greatest show on earth, the evolution of Pokemon
Something has arrived. That threatens to throw everything terribly out of balance. When it comes, will you accept your destiny? And when it’s your chance to be a hero, will you rise to the challenge? This year, discover how 1 person can make all the difference! Pokemon the Movie 2000 The Power of 1
I feel like it may be possible to come to a level of healing where you can probably undo a lot of your enneagram core fixation mb you could identify as healthy type from then on or not really that type…
but I do feel like instincts are not going anywhere lol. Whatever your fixation is will prob remain that, at least relative to type I feel like this might be more deeply entrenched. Ofc there’s always a healthier way to channel something. But I doubt I will stop being triggered around my in/ability to attract those I want to.
well…maybe not quite…? One way I see that happening is finding a soulmate and becoming one with him. I do people have multiple soulmates so hopefully there will be more than one chance - but I need only one soulmate anyway. Then my soul would literally be at complete and utter peace for the most part, as if what I intended and wanted most in life has been taken care of (or so I hope/imagine)
(kind of a quick summary but whatever)
◯▙ SEI | 8w9 - 5w6 - 4w5 | sp/so | FELV | BPNV | EFSA
I am a 6 that is the only personality type that explains my fears and shit to a T. Probably the closest one that will ever explain me ngl. Full enneagram I think I am 629 sp/sx.
I've settled on 5w4.
L'âme a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point
I'm still a 9. Sadly....lol kidding.
I thought my tritype was 964 for the longest, now I'm thinking I could be 972, it actually makes more sense to how I act in real life. But the 964 also feels a lot like me but deeper. The curse of relating to everything!
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome
Balanced wings 6 core lmao
Lmao so I'm a 4w5, in the tritype, which i've since read articles on how it 'isn't real', but for the sake of exploring this... I'm a 459. 4w5 5w4 and 9w1.
definitely am sx/sp also.
and I'm an ESI so i have Ne polr, andd we've been in a pandemic and i've been existing in an industry that's a poor fit for me. (will be getting out, once i get this degree next year-ish)
anyway, 4 5 and 9 all have the 'withdrawn' stance. so no f*ing wonder why i withdraw from a wider network of folks when i'm stressed (which is often) and have the burning desire for someone to fully see me and support me (see me in a 4 way, support me in teni ways).
i was reading yesterday on the forum LIEs talk about how challenging it is to meet ESIs, and also to become closer to them over time when the ESI alr has slotted someone into an appropriate level of closeness.
i take the obvious smack in the face (of what i've alr been talking about for months) that i NEED to make more effort to meet people and be around people in daily life. most of my communications with friends and family, and work people, are digitally mediated... which is *not* my preference, but more like circumstantial/structurally instantiated. so it's f*ing hard to make changes or set up new routines etc but omg, i was around people yesterday - spontaneously - and then around people today in bigger doses than usual (our dept had its first in-person public seminar after 2 years...) and it FELT SO GOOD HAHAHAHA
// i don't have a ~deep~ conceptual understanding of how and why i isolate (and withdraw), i don't know much about the enneagram honestly, but i'm seriously making moves lately to "come out of hiding" in my real life and bring more of myself to people and opportunities. i don't want life to pass me by because i was waiting for the conditions to be right or for the perfect understanding of different areas of life and why the opportunities that exist are the ones that we have to "hit me" eventl. done w that... i'm *doing* things and hope i keep it up
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Pretty sure I am 3w2. 316 is my tritype
“Anything is possible. It is night on planet earth and I'm alive. And someday I'll be dead.
Someday I'll just be bones in a box, but right now, I'm not.
And anything is possible.”
Balanced 6, probably.