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    Black Francis: Si-ISFp?
    Kim Deal: Ne-ENTp?



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    Their music has a very compact, collected sound, not sure how else to put it. Each instrument is clearly delineated and given its own space, which may largely be the producer's doing, but I don't think the band released the albums without their consent. This may or may not be type related, but I think it might have some correlation with /. In contrast, / (would) have a more cohesive, fuller sound where everything blends together and connects with each part as an overarching theme, like Nirvana. I think it's interesting to compare how the two bands approached their music because both came out of a similar scene, at a similar time, and Kurt admitted to being directly influenced by the band.

    Both Nirvana and Pixies have lyrics that border on nonsensical, but Kurt's writing always stuck me as if the lyrics have an undercurrent of symbolism, like they might seem ridiculous on the surface but they mean something real and personal because they're the contents of his consciousness and the products of his thought-processes. Pixies on the other hand, strike me as weird for the sake of weird, "how can I fuck with people's heads?", intentionally bending the convention and the structure to achieve something new, which is something I correlate with at times.

    The Pixies music is also more pop-y, well-rounded and aesthetic, all the chord progressions lead circularly to where they began with nothing hanging in the air, clean and crisp production, except when they're doing mental explorations and experimentation, and while it can be argued that this is mostly not type-related, it strikes me as generally more > .





    So my impression of their music is Judicious, Alpha > Delta.

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    IMO, I think Black Francis is Se-SEE and Kim Deal is Ne-IEE, I don't think they're duals considering the conflicts they had during the early 90s. Also, Joey Santiago is probably Ni-ILI and David Lovering is Si-SLI. I could be wrong, but this is the initial impression I have of them. The Pixies could be a hybrid Gamma/Delta band with Gamma irrationals taking the front stage and Delta irrationals being in the background.
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    I always thought their music symbolized EP randomness.

    They're a favorite so I'll think about it; don't have any strong ideas of their types at the moment.
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    guy 1: LSE
    guy 2: LSE
    guy 3: LSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    IMO, I think Black Francis is Se-SEE and Kim Deal is Ne-IEE
    It strikes me as being the other way around, subtypes or not. Kim has definitely more oomph, Frank always came across like a sarcastic baby. Also, there were other people in the band? Who knew.

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    Kim seems distinctly EP temperament. I thought IEE for her before I saw her interviews but now I'm leaning towards some Fe-valuing type, so ILE or SLE. It's possible that the butchness is throwing me off.



    Somehow I feel like IEEs and SEEs are more emotionally expressive than that, and not simply by being loud or acting zany which incidentally is something Fe-HA types are prone to doing and come off as goofy because they're not terribly good at it.

    Black comes off more introverted and low-key in his interviews, irrational at the very least. My impression was IP > EP and Alpha.

    EDIT: upon closer inspection, Black may be EP. Hm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    It strikes me as being the other way around, subtypes or not. Kim has definitely more oomph, Frank always came across like a sarcastic baby. Also, there were other people in the band? Who knew.
    It could be possible, I'd have to see more interviews of them to see if this fits.
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