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    "My friend has been cheating on their husband and she's coming to talk to me and we've been talking about her situation. What should I say to her? What should I do? Be supportive or I shouldn't be judmental of her?"

    Any advice you can give?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Who is an LSI? Her or the husband?
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    As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
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    Judging from the Alpha-version of it, she wants LSIs to reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    Who is an LSI? Her or the husband?
    i think the Q's hypothetical, she wants to see what a LSI would do in that situation, am i right?

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    I wanted to know what Ti would do in that situation.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I wanted to know what Ti would do in that situation.
    The answer would depend on the Ti-carrier's life experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    The answer would depend on the Ti-carrier's life experience.
    True, though perhaps many Ti-carriers have a similar response, or a similar way at looking at approaching the problem?
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    So what happened?

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    I'd tell the friend to talk to confess to her husband right away. It's better to work on the marriage or settle for divorce now than to drag the marriage in denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClownsandEntropy View Post
    True, though perhaps many Ti-carriers have a similar response, or a similar way at looking at approaching the problem?
    Probably. Most of the LIIs I know would probably ask the husband why the wife wasn't chained to the kitchen stove, and then they'd launch into rambling Republican/Libertarian-tinged monologues on pre-1960s gender roles before muttering a bunch of shit about the Federal Reserve and gold and how "they" are trying to make us all slaves. Conversely, one LII I know of would suggest that since the wife had sexually rejected the husband he ought read that as a signal to join him in exploring the world of buggery.

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    If you are basing something more on situational episodes than you are going by a process of perception rather than by judgment. I'm pretty sure. You essentially have to see it, to realize it or understand it, either by a product of sense perception or intuitive perception and your answer indicates just that. You can't consciously judge without the particular scenario or the instance of that moment. But, I'm asking for an analysis; what steps of thought one goes through not just the final answer.

    per·ceive/pərˈsēv/
    Verb:
    Become aware or conscious of (something); come to realize or understand.
    Become aware of (something) by the use of one of the senses, esp. that of sight.

    I, on the other hand, have built a concept and now am using that as a base to judge that against all other responses. I'm looking around to judge. Not in a mean way though.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    If you are basing something more on situational episodes than you are going by a process of perception rather than by judgment. I'm pretty sure. You essentially have to see it, to realize it or understand it, either by a product of sense perception or intuitive perception and your answer indicates just that. You can't consciously judge without the particular scenario or the instance of that moment. But, I'm asking for an analysis; what steps of thought one goes through not just the final answer.
    Why then are you asking for a process if you mean a result, unless the description of the process is the result you seek?

    I, on the other hand, have built a concept and now am using that as a base to judge that against all other responses. I'm looking around to judge. Not in a mean way though.
    And what is that concept constructed of, and where does its substance originate, and what imperatives formed its design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    Why then are you asking for a process if you mean a result, unless the description of the process is the result you seek?



    And what is that concept constructed of, and where does its substance originate, and what imperatives formed its design?
    I want a process of thought from beginning to end and not a result. Let's see what type are you since you're getting the opposite of what I'm sayin...thinking.

    The base of this concept is this particular scenerio; the question that has been posed.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    The answer would depend on the Ti-carrier's life experience.
    Hah.

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