Discuss.
Discuss.
That's how I talk.
Lol, anything else characteristic of how you talk? What do you talk about, what do you focus on, how do you/what do you try to communicate when speaking with another person. Is your speech fast, slow. Is it scattered, focused. Voice high, low? Do you use gestures? Your mood, body language. How do you try to come across...
That sort of thing.
Besides VI, I want to explore the prospect of getting a better understanding of a person's potential type by how they communicate.
People talk about their conscious functions.
Eh, I don't really talk a whole lot. Maybe this has something to do with growing up in household with people that didn't vocalize themselves much, so I picked up the trait, who knows.
A lot of times, when I do talk, I don't really think about what I say before I say it. It's like I have an idea of what I want to say, but I don't think about how to properly express it beforehand, so it can come out, uh, rude is what I've been told. Also been told that some things I say don't make a lot of sense sometimes for the same reason. I think my train of thought and words aren't always in sync with each other. Also been told that I don't seem to stay on one subject for very long.
That's all I really have from other peoples' perspective. Don't know about talking fast/slow - I think I'm somewhere in between. Same with high/low pitch. Although, I have been told that I tend to sound more "sweet and innocent" over the telephone. *shrug*
Oh, and I do like to use hand gestures when talking. Makes me feel more... open?
Um i used to think that about myself, and it certainly depends upon the situation and people around me (and how i'm feeling both emotionally and physically), but i've come to find out from onlookers that i'm a lot more talkative than i think i am. A lot more cheerful too, than i realize that i come across as.
I have the same problem, though mine manifests a lot more in the latter way you mentioned, where i say a bunch of words that are in the wrong order and come out as gibberish. Often i am worried that something i said may have come out the wrong way and been rude, but for the most part the feedback i get from people suggests my fears are usually unfounded. Sometimes though, in my worry, i will make efforts to clarify, just to make sure the person understood that i didn't mean it the rude way what I said could have been interpreted. When I do any of this with my duals (SLIs) they're usually like "yeah i knew what you meant...".A lot of times, when I do talk, I don't really think about what I say before I say it. It's like I have an idea of what I want to say, but I don't think about how to properly express it beforehand, so it can come out, uh, rude is what I've been told. Also been told that some things I say don't make a lot of sense sometimes for the same reason. I think my train of thought and words aren't always in sync with each other.
When i speak fast, i tend to get tongue tied or not enunciate well; usually i speak fast when i feel some pressure to speak quickly, or if i'm nervous. My natural, comfortable speech pattern is on the slow side. My normal voice volume is usually quieter than I think it is. I actually have trouble judging how loud i am speaking. Because i've gotten used to people constantly telling me to speak up (which gets frustrating), when i feel it's important for me to be heard, nowadays I will actually take a deeper breath and intentionally shout what i want to say.That's all I really have from other peoples' perspective. Don't know about talking fast/slow - I think I'm somewhere in between. Same with high/low pitch. Although, I have been told that I tend to sound more "sweet and innocent" over the telephone. *shrug*
Yeah me too. Not sure what my reason is though. I feel like it might help me get my point across?Oh, and I do like to use hand gestures when talking. Makes me feel more... open?
Last edited by Suz; 01-04-2012 at 08:05 PM.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I don't know, I just talk when I think I have something to say about it.
That depends on the situation. I'm not blabbing about things that don't have anything in common with the flow of conversation, that's a given. I usually communicate my opinion on the matter, that is, what I think about it or how something shouldn't be done.What do you talk about, what do you focus on, how do you/what do you try to communicate when speaking with another person.
Usually fast. Slow when I'm explaining something.Is your speech fast, slow. Is it scattered, focused. Voice high, low? Do you use gestures? Your mood, body language. How do you try to come across...
Focused.
Thick voice.
No gestures or at least I don't notice it. (not counting showing something, I gesticulate, then)
I don't know about the mood - if something pisses me off, then I'm pissed.
As knowing what I talk about, I think.
People make requests from their super-id functions and impart information from their ego
A good relationship to look at to understand verbalization is Supervision and Benefit and how miscommunications in these relationships cause friction
Superego and id verbalization usually occur in service to ego functions or in intimate situations.
What others have said of me:
Opinionated, dominating, abrasive, to the point, funny, clear, incoherent, insensitive, tactless, charming, self-aggrandizing, frank, challenging, sarcastic, interesting, dense, thoughtful, thoughtless
How I try to speak:
Clear, to the point, funny, charming, opinionated, challenging, sarcastic, interesting, thoughtful
I tend to write in short statements and little blurbs, and ask a lot of questions, generally to get some specifics, I tend to write in wierd grammer and edit a lot, sometimes losing some coherence in the writing due to not enough review of what I am writing. Sometimes one thought goes on top of another thought before I finish writing the previous thought.
I say "human being" and "individuals" a lot; very seldom call anyone a nasty insulting name; I will usually say "you're a jerk."
Express a lot of sympathy. I don't appeal to facts, I appeal to their emotions. I say "how can you treat human beings that way."
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html