View Poll Results: who do you support in the US presidential race?

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  • Obama (D)

    7 20.00%
  • Romney (R)

    1 2.86%
  • Gingrich (R)

    3 8.57%
  • Paul (R)

    21 60.00%
  • Perry (R)

    1 2.86%
  • Bachmann (R)

    0 0%
  • Santorum (R)

    1 2.86%
  • Huntsman (R)

    3 8.57%
  • Other

    2 5.71%
  • Don't know/no opinion

    6 17.14%
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    public and multiple choice poll, i'm curious. some people talk a lot about politics and i know where a lot of them stand; i'm wondering what the opinions of less vocal people may be too (if they have them).
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    Ron Paul. Huntsman would be okay, I think.

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    My 'other' was mainly meant for Ralph Nader but I'm sure there are other 'others' who I would support. It's all circumstantial (i.e. Paul wins nomination so I support him in November. Paul doesn't win, I support Obama. Provided Dem. and Rep. I was neutral on and/or didn't trust either, vote for Nader).

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    Ron Paul. He's the only legitimate candidate. I can't support Obama after everything he's done.
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    I've always voted libertarian for the past many years. Though I'm left-wing on many issues they tend to be too ideal and pretend as though people will just suddenly wake up one day and start working together and not exploit each other in the distance for money and personal power - and such a social utopia hasn't happened yet.

    And I can't really be a Republican, because they are a special type of asshole. Sorta the opposite of lefties, they're like 'let's see how much of an asshole I can be and get away with it.'

    What really makes me throw up in my mouth is these celebs who make 40+ million dollars a year or much more then that, calling themselves "liberal" so people will like them. When I've always used the term in the more classical sense, to mean bigger government and control over others as opposed to bigger financial freedom. You can't sit there with a straight face and say how liberal you are after you already narcissiticially exploited everybody out of their money to empower yourself. Not that I think there's anything super wrong with that, it's a type of evil that's a lot better than the alternative. Just their hypocrisy astounds me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblesAndSpikes View Post
    And I can't really be a Republican, because they are a special type of asshole. Sorta the opposite of lefties, they're like 'let's see how much of an asshole I can be and get away with it.'
    pretty much. the problem is that they veil their cause under some kind of moral imperative for "liberty" and "freedom". what they really want is license to be an asshole.

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    The entire US economy is basically a lie. It is propped up by the continuous printing of money, misappropriation of assets, artificial interest rates, and price fixing(which oddly are all the same thing in the big scheme of things).
    Most people don't understand when they look at the economy is that money isn't some supernatural entity, it is a neutral asset that is supposed to be representative of value within society. The government basically monopolizes those values and invests them into alternative sectors of the economy(welfarism, government projects, etc). Because the valuation of those sectors is in contrast with how the market would have normally distributed values, this creates what most people know as a bubble. Because those sectors of the economy would continually lose value under normal circumstances, the government is then forced to keep putting money into those sectors to keep them propped up. As they run out of money, they are forced to keep printing more and more which causes the dollar to lose its purchasing power. We are headed towards financial ruin. Really Ron Paul is the only candidate that understands how that stuff works. Those trying to nitpick him and call him a racist bigot(which in no way is he a racist bigot as the libertarian philosophy is antithetical to that) will probably be the ones crying and wishing he had gotten elected in about 5-10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Most people don't understand when they look at the economy is that money isn't some supernatural entity, it is a neutral asset that is supposed to be representative of value within society.
    Actually It is representative of colladeral such as gold bricks, which have value that money printed on paper then represents.


    The government basically monopolizes those values and invests them into alternative sectors of the economy(welfarism, government projects, etc).
    I wasnt aware that they invest into government projects, nor that your governemnt invested in these things trivially. What I do know is that banks, on the other hand, are loaning money to private sectors which they cant refund later, because it is not backed up by actual collateral. Banks are the one screwing up the economy in the US and in Europe, not so much the governments, since banks are controlled by private individuals and not the government - in other words bankers are cheating out private sectors.



    Because the valuation of those sectors is in contrast with how the market would have normally distributed values, this creates what most people know as a bubble. Because those sectors of the economy would continually lose value under normal circumstances, the government is then forced to keep putting money into those sectors to keep them propped up. As they run out of money, they are forced to keep printing more and more which causes the dollar to lose its purchasing power. We are headed towards financial ruin.
    Yes we are. And by we I mean your country as well as mine. But like I said, its more the fault of bank owners and CEOs wanting to make quick profit, then about the government making false investments. Also I dont understand your claim about the value of the said sectors going down under normal circumstances. Why would they lose value?

    Its really about the system of capitalism being abused in favor of quick, easy, and most importanly, unethical because it is illegal profit which creates a loss of faith in capitalism itself. As the Slavic philosopher Zizek said "I will either see you in communism, or in hell. But if you are capitalist you will say 'but they are the same!'"

    Basically, if you dont find another way of running your economy fast, wealth in the private sector will be finsished. In laymen's terms: No more color TV, cable, internet, swimming pool, or fancy cars for you my American friends.
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    Ron Paul. A lot of the other republican candidates seem like drones and I don't agree with a lot of what Obama does but after him signing the National Defense Authorization Act I could never support him.
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    Gingrich is a neocon insider bastard in disguised. Don't be fooled.
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    Either gingrich or paul.

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    Ron Paul

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    Lol... Gingrich has said several times that his favorite president was FDR.
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    Obama. Everyone other then Obama and Romney is a joke. They're either a fraud, a racist, a homophobe or going senile.

    I think the only two electable candidates are Romney and Obama. I don't think people expect all people to come around, but in a Democracy, you just need some people to come around, enough to turn the tide. Paul since he has gotten more focused media attention is getting all his skeletons aired out and is unelectable.

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    Teleprompters are not an real issue. Politics is a big show anyways.
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