View Poll Results: Lana's type?

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  • ILE (ENTp)

    0 0%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    1 2.78%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    1 2.78%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    0 0%
  • IEI (INFp)

    10 27.78%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    2 5.56%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    0 0%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    5 13.89%
  • ILI (INTp)

    1 2.78%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    0 0%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    11 30.56%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    5 13.89%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    0 0%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    0 0%
  • EII (INFj)

    2 5.56%
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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I'm not going to fight if Lana is 3w4 or 4w3, coz I'm not sure myself (as I said, I type her 3w4 sx/sp) and a bunch of other people can't tell either, but I don't think you perfectly understand where the divide between 3 and 4 lies in theory. I's not that simple and it depends on variants and sociotypes A LOT (comparing LIE 3w2 so/sx with let's say IEI 3w4 sx/sp is unrealistic). You're oversimplifying things and that's why 4's are way over-typed imho. It's like every depressed and introspective person is nowadays a 4, no matter how mainstream and basic bitchy they are. Also Lana's lyrics like Ride speak way against her being a 4. You also have over-simplified view of 3. Type 3 is not so much about achieving and being business-like as it is about image seeking in different ways - some 3's only do "prettiest" and nothing else. There's a bunch of unconventional artistic 3's (hello, Andy Warhol) and even depressed and shy 3's. Sexual 4's are EXTREMELY rare ime. I only know one person who I type sx 4 and she's exactly like descriptions and NOTHING like Lana in vibe (she's like a fiery charismatic weird ball of angry energy and competition - compared to her I, as a sx 3w4 come across as a straight out 9).
    Trying to understand or capture what a person is about, their inner workings, is still very much complex. You sometimes only have the help of material out there - what has been said and done or written before (added my sources to my previous post, so to know where I'm coming from... yadda yadda). But every system has it’s limits and in digging deeper, trying to encompass more, you have to stretch your very own limits of perception. But maybe you will always be limited, because as it has been said by someone before ‚we don‘t see things as they are, we see them as we are‘. Your awareness is lacking and you miss out certain fields/points, that are not accessible to your limited perception. A
    dd not working from an inner source/understanding and the consequence is that your understanding/image of a person, your assessement of their character can be lacking, that it is too one dimensional, not finely shaded or differentiated enough or it is just completely off (well sometimes that's just how it is). Your critique is therefore noted and I understand it. Please excuse me, I don’t feel like writing a long winded ramble about this today (going back and forth, to or fro, 3 or 4). I think an argumentation of sx 3 -> occupation with female/masculine ideal -> connection to sx 6 -> strength and beauty -> connection to sx 9 -> merging and a disconnect from the sx 4 description and an added layer to what an enneagram 3 is about, is valid. I also wanted to note, that I wanted to add the fact into my post, that they have different sociotypes, which can augment my perceived divide further, but sometimes it's tiresome to write with all the 'could be' 'in my opinion' 'my guess' 'this is of course not a scientific theory' etc. I'll leave it at that.

    Last edited by Moonbeaux Rainfox; 09-27-2015 at 01:34 PM.

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