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Type and happiness
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Last edited by willekeurig; 05-17-2015 at 07:05 PM.
I remember some hearsay about INT's being the less likely to get married, and if that's true, then introverted thinkers may find it harder to be happy. I guess if one has the energy to engage in relationships (E over I) and the ability to understand and fine tune your approach to people and conversation (F over T), it may lead to more satisfactory and easier relations. Indeed, sometimes I feel that I cannot be bothered socialising/being concerned for others/caring about how others are, yet I still wish that people still wish to talk to me/care about me/entertain me with their antics. I would argue that extroverted feelers probably have greater concern and ability to sustain conversation and are more focused on people than things within a conversation, and that this allows for stronger and more relationships to develop, the presence of which may make extroverted feelers more happy.
However, those same people may lack the sense of clarity of thought or contentment alone that introverted thinkers may have. Which isn't to say that I think introverted thinkers aren't less happy than extroverted feelers, just that it's a point to remember.
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Good points, thanks!Originally Posted by octo
I definitely agree on the importance of quality over quantity in friends, but maybe the feeler types are better at that too?
I can imagine e.g LIIs having a hard time with making friends, being IJ-tempered thinkers with Fi role and Se polr. My LII brother used to be a real cliche for a nerd for years, always at home on his computer and having zero friends, whereas my ESE sister has been quite the opposite (they are twins and classmates so much of this, I think, is related to personality rather than environment). There was also a LII guy in my class in secondary school and it was the same with him - the rare attempts to socialise with others eventually led into him being bullied by half of the class. I'm not saying that majority of any IXTxs type are like that, but I assume a bigger percentage of them than EXFxs.
Good post
This is what I keep telling people.
I have a intuitive feeling that IEE might be the happiest type there is.
But this might be just Henry-related
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
- Many researches/articles/wise old people I've seen suggest that relationships are a key-factor in long-term happiness. Would this make extroverted feelers happier than introverted thinkers?
This might be true to some part, but I believe that since feelers are more oriented to the relationship aspects of life, that success or failure in this area might play a bigger role in their happiness. (contrary to thinkers)
- Having poor health quite possibly affects a persons happiness levels. A Si- related issue..?
Poor health would probably in most cases lower a persons level of happines, and it might be that people with strong Si takes better care of themselves.
That doesn't mean that Si-doms are healthier though.
Type might play in in that way that health issues play a bigger or smaller role for the level of happiness, in relation to life goals or the like.
- Religious beliefs or a philosophic point of view that gives life a meaning and helps to cope with difficulties/the feeling of being part of something "bigger" makes people happier. Intuitive types > sensing types?
I think that Intuitive people might be more prone to existential crisis.
Otherwise I think type might play a bigger part in what kind of philosophy someone is drawn to.
In we assume that with the ability to live according to ones beliefs plays a big role in achieving happiness we might assume that certain types could have a harder time to achieve succes in this area.
For example certain types might have forced upon beliefs that are unhealthy that other types wouldn't "accept".
Over and out.
E7s seem pretty happy. But if type plays any part in happiness, it would be very minor compared to all the other factors. The most reliable way to be happy is to be thankful.
I have no opinion on E7s being more happy than others, but otherwise I agree with this. Happiness I think is more about where you are in your life and whom you're with, and also it's about attitude, and I think "thankful" is a good way of explaining the attitude that leads to happiness. Appreciate what you have rather than feel bad about what you don't have. If your situation and mental and physical health are reasonably good (and I understand that isn't always the case by a long shot), then how happy you are is to at least some degree a choice.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I've thought about that too. They're extroverted, laid back, open-minded, good with social situations and able to carry out their plans and take action. Pretty much my ideal personality. However, I've met tons of IEEs that seem almost too happy to exist, but after I've gotten to know them personally/they've opened up to me that's not been the case at all.
Didn't think about that, but it feels very reasonable!
Ep types push though their self feelings, being drained. Because their orientation is to ignore connecting with what senses that come into them and do or engage in an activity, like baking, hiking, cooking, mowing the lawn, etc. Ij types don't, they submit to it due to lack of will.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Seriously, have you read the EII descriptions? Jesus. *Someone please get this girl a Socionics dictionary*Lack of will?
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I know it's a stereotype.
Hey, EIIs! Do you submit due to lack of will?
No
Maritsa was thinking about lack of will to live, she wants to kill herself or she is thinking about something entirely else and I'm wrong.
Then you're typing yourself according to the wrong system and I type you SEE type, confirm that and add you to my list.
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Bwahaha!
Henry looks like he could be an Avatar, if he were blue.
I agree with Slacker.
I was saying this in the shoutbox the other day, you have some legitimately good ideas. In theory, you are dealing with a consistent typing system as everyone else here. It's a shame you're piss-poor in its application.
"Arsal, do you submit due to lack of will?"
"DA, submit to whom and what kind of will?"
"If you didn't want to sit in a different chair, and Pirate was pressuring you to give him yours, would you be able to resist?"
"I'm too nice generally, so I'm not sure, but there have been times where I've been pigheaded."
"Actually, if Pirate asked me nicely and said "I'm tired" then I would give him my seat, but otherwise, no."
"That's what I thought. EIIs are submissive, but not due to lack of willpower."
Being nice is not equivalent to lacking willpower. EIIs and SEIs are nice, but then can "put their foot down."
Would you like me to interview more people?
Now this is hilarious. I'd like to hear where do you see the Ti polr in me? And what about the supposed Se-dominance? I myself think my Se polr is quite obvious, but of course it's more difficult to judge based on posts on a internet forum than real life.
Also, I'd like to hear if anyone else has an opinion on my type, even if it's just a gut feeling.
Being IEE doesn't automatically make you good at social situations because there are other factors involved as well such as social anxiety. We may be happier than most people as a result of being overly optimistic, but if this doesn't materialize after some time then it will lead to inevitable sadness.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Oh, how I wish this was true for the IEEs I know. I've found that they are skilled at hiding their inner turmoil, and oftentimes they are experiencing some. What happens with the IEEs I know is that they come off emotionally solid on the outside and let all the tension build up on the inside over time, and eventually they lash out when it becomes too much to bear. Needless to say, that moment of explosion is never pretty.
"I was never really insane except upon occasions when my heart was touched." -Edgar Allan Poe
I've read in some socionics article that Fe-ego types are somewhat more likely than other types to avoid relationships that in socionics are considered to be unfavorable. Overall I'm not sure whether it is T-types or F-types that would benefit the most from this in terms of happiness - being Fi/Fe-leading or creative doesn't seem to dissuade people from getting into train-wrecks of relationships, so if there is a correlation between Fe/Fi and EQ it is definitely not a strong one.
Imo that is not related to N/S scale. There is a multitude of reasons for why people choose to turn to religion or spirituality. With being part of something "bigger", I'd think that extraverts and people with so-primary/secondary in instinctual stackings would be more socially involved.
Would depends on conditions/circumstances - rationals will do better under some conditions than irrationals.
This dichotomy doesn't directly translate to Optimism/Pessimism though the name might imply it. Negativists are negativist not in the sense that they have a negative outlook on life but in the sense that they pay attention to the lack of, the null, what's missing. But it is not like they become deeply depressed while they are at it. From what I gather it is just their general mindset.
This article - link - mentions that left/result types are generally more resistant to stress and depression while process/right types are less resistant because their thought process doesn't loop back to correct itself. If you scroll to the very bottom of this article is lists types wrt their stress resistance. (as a bonus it also ranks types according to their masculinity/femininity).
General happiness of type may also depend on its prevalence. In socionics it is popular to consider that types are equally distributed and that no type is screwed with respect to finding duals. In MBTI statistics show that the distribution is heavily skewed in favor of Si-ego types while all four Ni-egos type are the least prevalent in population. If this is true, quadra distributions then will be likewise skewed, making Delta and Alpha the most numerous quadra while Beta and Gamma would be the least populous ones. The types that are more rare in population may be less happy simply due to the fact that they will feel less accepted, more often running into individuals who think quite differently from them.
She has no clue of her surroundings. Me and my brother have fought with Agarina. It's terrible. I don't know how Se PoLRs should fight, but she uses cowardly tactics, gets easily hurt, cheats truce and gets easily upset when more than expected pain is gained.
People please, waving the NTR card around doesn't answer anything. World is full of most bizarre connections, most of them which we won't propably find. Why not be playful with theories instead of dismissing them, or at least answer how different types are happy.
Last edited by Aquagraph; 12-11-2011 at 09:15 AM.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
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