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    May I marry a Shtirlits? LOL

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    That guy looks nothing like Jadae.
    "[Scapegrace,] I don't know how anyone can stand such a sinister and mean individual as you." - Maritsa Darmandzhyan

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    I miss Michael.
    I don't know why I'm saying this; he knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Someone has to maintain the illusion, especially this one.
    Illusion of what?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Yes. His name is Burdsurd Absurd, the Polack.
    I would like to meet you, korpsey, I could do with a laugh. Oh and don't argue with Stirlitz, especially when male, and especially he one who who self-typed SLI, you're going to have to kill Socionics with your homo speak, hate speak I mean.
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    k0rpsey left his asshole filter at home again

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    sounds pretty repulsive to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    sounds pretty repulsive to me.
    What does?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    What does?
    Ties and suits and short haircuts.

    And "traditional values".
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    Axis of Evil: Iran, Iraq, North Korea and Agarina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Ties and suits and short haircuts.

    And "traditional values".
    Aww I'm so sorry for you

    Those things fit my EII self just perfectly.

    Might want to sharpen up on your Fi:

    -- educating and enculturating
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Ties and suits and short haircuts.

    And "traditional values".
    Ties and suits = business attire

    short haircuts seeems to be the norm for most logical men, going by descriptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Ties and suits = business attire

    short haircuts seeems to be the norm for most logical men, going by descriptions
    You forgot traditional values.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    You forgot traditional values.
    I didn't, I just don't have a clear explanation for it

    could be one dimensional Ni, or Fi, or both

    although I'm more inclined to believe that it serves the context of what follows it and nothing else - good father, etc.

    so maybe Fe role? could be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    sounds pretty repulsive to me.
    Oh and like Korpsy said of the word "distasteful," "repulsive" is also a non-ETHICAL word/reference; instead, both of those words point to aesthetics, which he also said is in combination of F + S.



    How in any way, shape or form do you explain your non ethical statements?

    Oh oh OH...if you need to borrow any ethical words PAY ME BABY! LOL
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Ties and suits = business attire

    short haircuts seeems to be the norm for most logical men, going by descriptions
    Someone in this thread doesn't know what Fi is and ties it to very obvious cues that they have invented without back relation what an information element is. Its yet another Maritsa post.

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    ADVERTISEMENT:

    Maritsa selling ethical words to non Fi base types which she types SEI; get it while supplies last; everything 50% off.


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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Someone in this thread doesn't know what Fi is and ties it to very obvious cues that they have invented. It isn't you.
    tell me about it

    well, it's not exactly wrong per say in regards to the type, but I don't want to give them more ammunition

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    you
    When You gonna learn to type?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    ADVERTISEMENT:

    Maritsa selling ethical words to non Fi base types which she types SEI; get it while supplies last; everything 50% off.


    dat cool face

    why not give it for free? where is your humanitarian side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    How in any way, shape or form do you explain your non ethical statements?


    Explain Thyself!
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    dat cool face

    why not give it for free? where is your humanitarian side?
    I tried and they wouldn't take it; I feel as though people might value something more when they pay for it and when it costs them something to get it.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    I tried and they wouldn't take it; I feel as though people might value something more when they pay for it and when it costs them something to get it.
    their loss. you are only doing god's work, bless you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    tell me about it

    well, it's not exactly wrong per say in regards to the type, but I don't want to give them more ammunition
    Socionics is an input/output based cognitive system. Such that F is ethics, Fi is internalised and Fe is externalised. Fi is based around how the individual feels and meeting the emotional needs of others only when it affects the emotional state of the individual involved whereas Fe can be viewed as the emotions as having an understanding of the group emotional state and an understanding of how the expressed emotions can be altered.

    No bow ties or petticoats are involved in either of these elements unless it results in wearing bow ties or petticoats which could also be chosen for numerous other reasons and a logical reason as to why you might wear them can be construed based upon any information element. For example: an individual might find wearing a tie to the office offers them internal comfort - this would reflect Si.

    Unless you can understand the why, you can't judge the how in socionics.

    Maritsa is continuously falling victim to k0rpsyesque shibboleths of the most simple order. No understanding of why, then a hasty generalization based on those shibboleths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    How in any way, shape or form do you explain your non ethical statements?
    Ugly hairstyles aren't ethical or unethical. They're just ugly. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Ugly hairstyles aren't ethical or unethical. They're just ugly. Duh.

    Anyway my reference to ethics and lack of wasn't regarding your preference for something, it was in the way that you said, expressed, your sentiments of something.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    sounds pretty repulsive to me.
    This
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    Anyway my reference to ethics and lack of wasn't regarding your preference for something, it was in the way that you said, expressed, your sentiments of something.
    What ethical word would you use to describe an ugly haircut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    What ethical word would you use to describe an ugly haircut?
    One is not repulsed by the persons hair cut in the ethical world; in the ethical world one is fine with whatever choice of hair cuts a person makes because in the FiNe world a person is seen for more than just their physical form; they are seen by the value of their character, friendship, relationship. They are loved for who they are.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    PAY ME BABY! HAH
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Ugly hairstyles aren't ethical or unethical. They're just ugly. Duh.
    Watch as Si (individual preferences to senses received (like/dislike the internal sensation)) is misconstrued to be Fi (individual ethics). Because that's ethical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    One is not repulsed by the persons hair cut in the ethical world; in the ethical world one is fine with whatever choice of hair cuts a person makes because in the FiNe world a person is seen for more than just their physical form; they are seen by the value of their character, friendship, relationship. They are loved for who they are.
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
    – Arthur Schopenhauer

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    that's what you get for having a pretentious taste in male's haircuts

    I have to side with Maritsa on this one, I don't see EIIs basing their likes or dislikes on appearances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    that's what you get for having a pretentious taste in male's haircuts

    I have to side with Maritsa on this one, I don't see EIIs basing their likes or dislikes on appearances
    It's simple Ryan

    S-physical stuff
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I have to side with Maritsa on this one, I don't see EIIs basing their likes or dislikes on appearances
    How about ESIs - shouldn't it be the same for Fi dominants?

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