SLEs are like doggies!

[Wavebury]

Maritsa,SLEs are not confident in relationship matters and cannot read people's emotions well. I think Starfall is spot on with her assessment and youfail to see that SLEs are not overly confident machos who know people inside out. That's how they come across, but they can be deeply insecure. I think of them as puppies who think they are pitbulls and can convince people that they are, but they still remain puppies inside.

You're mixing up confidence in relationships with self confidence. Its one thing to be confident in yourself, another to be confident in others and your capacity to relate to them.

[jessica129]

I agree with Kim. Maritsa, things aren't always so black and white...

[jessica129]

people still go on the tinychat? where's the link?

[jessica129]

what is that lol

[jessica129]

lol oh yeah...i thought you meant something like tinychat where people could do the video chats like they used to

[Leader]

Agee may be bitching in this thread... but he comes across exactly like a puppy in tiny chat lol. Denial

Nnnnnnnnnnnnononononono...

[Dallas]

- They can't tell what they're being punished for unless you catch them in the act.

- They love lots of praise & affection & they visibly show their pleasure.

- Loyal. Always willing to jump in and protect their loved ones. They'll fight to the death if needed.

- If you don't show them love & praise they become depressed & feel neglected.

- They never trust people who aren't in their inner circle. You have to be special in order to gain this trust.

- Love to be petted

- If they get mad at you all you have to do is sweet talk them into submission & tell them that you love them

- Rough and rowdy.

- If threatened they will become fiercely aggressive & go on the attack.

- Will randomly hump your leg... (j/k... or am I?)

- Fearless companions

I've only dated one SLE before, so I'm not sure to what degree I can comment. I definitely agree with the bolded term in regards to my experience.

[redbaron]

Overall, I agree with Starfall, but I also agree with these statements...

They (SLEs) can read them and understand them well through their ability to notice every detail about the person.

Quiet, strategic, always sensing.

SLE have a distinguished grown up demeanor.

yes but that's from a distance. When you get to know them, they can appear VERY puppy-like and goofy.

Just because they have Se doesn't mean SLE don't fear things. They are human but what you're describing is a person who envisions themselves as a fearless companion who lives and displays themselves according to this self image and relives this fantasy continuously. That, I believe is characteristic of SLI.

I agree with this too although I think it depends on the person. I think SLEs probably don't fear external physical threats. What they DO fear perhaps are feelings and hurting people due to their cluelessness or something along those lines.

[blackburry]

Completely agree with Starfall, Octo, Kim, and Redbaron... the others have probably never been a close friend to a SLE-Se before.

[Absurd]

[redbaron]

My bf doesn't want kids because he's afraid he won't love them, and he's also afraid that he'll be a slave to their whims if they're cute and he loves them too much. Wtf. :S

that's valid. I don't know any SLE male who doesn't ADORE their children. But that said, they DO tend to spoil them and give them what they want. LOL It's cute.

[Gilly]

Yes

[Kim]

Maybe IEI's just bring out the puppy in SLE's. Yesterday my bf was acting silly & started dancing and then paused for a second and said "why do I always act like a goof whenever I'm around you? I don't understand it"

I just read this to my boyfriend and asked if he can relate to it and he said "shhhhhh!" I agree that if they feel really comfortable around a person, they turn into goofy puppies with wiggly butts! <3 I can see how this would happy quickly with their dual.

[Kim]

at least we're still identicals in Maritsa land!



they do this with their gf's too

And their dogs

[Trevor]

WOOF!!

[redbaron]

And their dogs

exactly. girlfriends and dogs included also.

[Absurd]

Nnnnnnnooooooo....

[inumbra]

I think that this doggie is like an SLE (or being portrayed like one).

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/...ers-and-maury/

Starting at 20:50 - Maury the dog.

Various quotes:

He's excited over a feather on the floor. I mean, everything gets him excited. He has two modes--on and off. Nothing in the middle. And off is like in his crate sleeping.

(Unpredictable around dogs.) Around my own pack I can trust him. Sometimes he's great. A dog will go to attack him, and he actually once put a dog in a headlock and moved his head out of the way and waited for me to break it up. But then some random dog walking next to him, if you're not paying attention, he'll lunge and bite at him.

He's done tread-milling this morning. Played fetch this morning... (Non-stop.)

So after exercise he never gets into that resting mode?

No, you have to tell him to. Anything positive that Maury does is 'cause I told him to do it. I told him to sit. I told him to relax. I told him to lay down.

Never on his own?

No. I mean, maybe after a while, but...

He doesn't ever completely surrender and give up to you. It's always excitement.

He's had some definite dog friends and then one day he gets aggressive, usually possessive over something, and then he'll bite them.

Oh, he's fun. Fun is not a problem here.

Wow. Is he always that way? Yeah. I know he's going to trigger a revolution in there with that energy.

Yeah, he's Mr. Playful.

It's like a racing horse. Maury made this place his house in a second. As soon as we step out of the car that was his house. That's a lot of confidence. Now let's see how Junior see him. No trust. They're curious, but after they're curious what do they believe about him? Look, they're all lifting the leg. Look at Apollo... All the way from there, he doesn't trust him... The pack already told me, "We don't trust him."

Look at his body language. This is his first time at the ranch. He feels at home. And that can cause major, major problems with the pack. The new guy feeling at home? No way. No way. He have to be polite. And then they tell him when he can come into the circle. It's just part of the ritual. Look how he wants to come in.

As you saw, all that stuff that he's doing, he's already creating competition. He's creating--Junior my adolescent dog, he's already trying to imitate him.

Cesar brings Maury to the Dog Psychology Center where his high level of energy and self-confidence wreak havoc on Cesar's stable pack, especially Junior. It's clear to Cesar that Maury has the energy of a marathon runner. In the vast expanse of the Dog Psych Ctr he thrives. The question remains, can Maury learn limitations and still find his rightful place in the world.

But look how he comes and cuts the dogs in. That, if a dog is not under control, that can trigger a fight in seconds. So two Maury's in one place, that...

He wants to play, but his game is quite dominant.

The drive he has! Makes me all bubbly inside. I love it. I won't be able to sleep tonight, thinking about Maury.

Maury can accomplish anything that he's taught to do. I think it would have been a total loss if Maury hadn't been given another chance in life. A total loss.

[redbaron]

hahhaaha "fun is not a problem here" so true!

[Trevor]

WOOF!!