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    Infantiles make you want to hold them forever and tell them they will never ever have to worry about anything ever again because hugs make everything better.
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    Aggressors chase --> Victims play games and run away
    Caregivers look after others --> Infantiles are "needy" and enrich other people's life
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    Infantiles are incapable of bowel control and cogently expressing their thoughts.

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    Something to do with inspiration and possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    Aggressors chase
    Victims play games and run away
    Caregivers look after others

    Is there a similar shorthand way of summarizing infantile behaviour?
    See thread title.
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    Caregivers and Victims both have Extroverted Judgment in their ego.

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    need to be nourished and protected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Kam View Post
    Infantiles make you want to hold them forever and tell them they will never ever have to worry about anything ever again because hugs make everything better.
    Infantiles are loyal to those who take care of them, and in turn, allow the Caregiver inside their secret, inner world.

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    I know you have "playful" under victim, but that's often a stereotype of infantile.
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    Infantiles allow caregivers to care for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    I know you have "playful" under victim, but that's often a stereotype of infantile.
    Actually, Victims are specifically "play games". Infantiles won't play games with you, unless they're board games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    Actually, Victims are specifically "play games". Infantiles won't play games with you, unless they're board games.
    *hides her pile of burnt board games*

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    Infantiles are weird
    More for me, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    Actually, Victims are specifically "play games". Infantiles won't play games with you, unless they're board games.
    Somehow I feel that ILE's can be real scheming and calculative.

    Besides that, Infantiles come off as playful in the jolly innocent way whereas Victims "play games" in a somehow passive-aggressive (aggression in a much broader sense of the term) way, the stereotype being the girl who just "happens" to be in the same place he is and "accidentally" drops something in front of him.
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    Infantiles have an endearing childlike playfulness to them that is charming to some people, this I'm guessing is also different in men and women, women would be more girly and men would be boyish.

    Immediately what comes to mind is Mozart in Amadeus or a character like Tony Stark or Sherlok Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.) or the photo of albert einstein with his tongue out. They have a sort of easy going, non-chalant attitude.

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    @ died, What if I like the idea of pampering my SO by doing things for her?
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    Supportable? As in, they are able to accept the help of others maybe? Not needing it per se, but able to be appreciative of and comfortable with those kinds of contributions?
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    I would be interested if there were sample quotes of something an infantile would say to their partner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taknamay View Post
    I would be interested if there were sample quotes of something an infantile would say to their partner.
    You'd better get examples from all four infantile types and average them or something. Otherwise your data will be seriously skewed.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You'd better get examples from all four infantile types and average them or something. Otherwise your data will be seriously skewed.
    That's probably some good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    Aggressors chase
    Victims play games and run away
    Caregivers look after others

    Is there a similar shorthand way of summarizing infantile behaviour?


    Infantiles point at objects.

    "Look a XYZ"! ..."Look! a WXY." ... "Look! there's an elephant! Did you know that most of elephants..." ..."Look, a strawberry!! Strawberries can..."

    Caregivers are responsive to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taknamay View Post
    I would be interested if there were sample quotes of something an infantile would say to their partner.
    This is quite an old post, but I'm interested in other responses.

    Personally it depends on the context of the situation for me. I switch between serious and playful responses as the situation requires. EP infantiles probably lean more toward more consistent lightheartedness.

    An example of a serious response I give when I'm interested in someone is to sit and talk with them about their life and their problems. I'm pretty good at that and enjoy it. There aren't really certain things I say, and that's my approach to life -- being responsive rather than proactive, I mean. I prefer to focus my energy on specific problems, (ideally ones that are given to me by other people and the implementation of which I don't feel pressured to deal with myself) rather than to just constantly throw ideas/energy out into the void like IxEs do to see what they can turn up.

    When I'm more playful I tend to become much more self-aggrandizing and teasing; the joking image I try to act is one as special and thus worthy to be valued highly -- but it's still a joke, intended to make the other person laugh. For instance, I'll dance exaggeratedly to whatever ambient music might be playing (in a store, for instance); the joke being that I'm a sensual and fun person, but since I'm so bad at it, it provokes laughter. I'll also make jokes encouraging caretaking behavior; for instance if someone says "I wonder what I should do..." I might say something like "You should feed me more of your pancakes." (most of the jokes I make are contextual and it's difficult to just come up with one like this; they're usually funnier!) The idea I think is that the joking does two things: it really is a sincere attempt to make the other person happy/amused, but it really is equally meant as an invitation to take the joke seriously. "You can feed me pancakes, you know. You can believe I'm special and unique and worthy of love..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    This is quite an old post, but I'm interested in other responses.

    Personally it depends on the context of the situation for me. I switch between serious and playful responses as the situation requires. EP infantiles probably lean more toward more consistent lightheartedness.

    An example of a serious response I give when I'm interested in someone is to sit and talk with them about their life and their problems. I'm pretty good at that and enjoy it. There aren't really certain things I say, and that's my approach to life -- being responsive rather than proactive, I mean. I prefer to focus my energy on specific problems, (ideally ones that are given to me by other people and the implementation of which I don't feel pressured to deal with myself) rather than to just constantly throw ideas/energy out into the void like IxEs do to see what they can turn up.

    When I'm more playful I tend to become much more self-aggrandizing and teasing; the joking image I try to act is one as special and thus worthy to be valued highly -- but it's still a joke, intended to make the other person laugh. For instance, I'll dance exaggeratedly to whatever ambient music might be playing (in a store, for instance); the joke being that I'm a sensual and fun person, but since I'm so bad at it, it provokes laughter. I'll also make jokes encouraging caretaking behavior; for instance if someone says "I wonder what I should do..." I might say something like "You should feed me more of your pancakes." (most of the jokes I make are contextual and it's difficult to just come up with one like this; they're usually funnier!) The idea I think is that the joking does two things: it really is a sincere attempt to make the other person happy/amused, but it really is equally meant as an invitation to take the joke seriously. "You can feed me pancakes, you know. You can believe I'm special and unique and worthy of love..."
    The description of how you act with your mommy GF's reminds me a lot of my EII bestfriend. Meanwhile i'm more like any Ne lead, I become more clingy and "needy", not in a toxic way, but I do, and Delta ST women seem to want to give me a lot of attention when I do, which is awesome, because I can't control myself, I want it, I need it. I seem to become vulnerable too, which i hate with any other types.

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    There can be a lot of spellbinding experiences as a child that we may cast aside rather soul-less~ly as we mature, a sad facet for wonderland and drama.

    But, we can also become wiser, and understand the deeper meaning of stories.

    Of archetypes, symbols, systems, paradoxes, metaphors, all of that can depict and showcase entire merry-go-rounds in fluffy Peter Cottontail Easter Bunny albums!!

    I can see popcorn and theatrics racing over the rabbit hole to transcension of doorways and routes of the forbidden depth.
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    No. No charm, or if there is, they don't do it intentionally.

    That makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    When I'm more playful I tend to become much more self-aggrandizing and teasing; the joking image I try to act is one as special and thus worthy to be valued highly -- but it's still a joke, intended to make the other person laugh. For instance, I'll dance exaggeratedly to whatever ambient music might be playing (in a store, for instance); the joke being that I'm a sensual and fun person, but since I'm so bad at it, it provokes laughter. I'll also make jokes encouraging caretaking behavior; for instance if someone says "I wonder what I should do..." I might say something like "You should feed me more of your pancakes." (most of the jokes I make are contextual and it's difficult to just come up with one like this; they're usually funnier!) The idea I think is that the joking does two things: it really is a sincere attempt to make the other person happy/amused, but it really is equally meant as an invitation to take the joke seriously. "You can feed me pancakes, you know. You can believe I'm special and unique and worthy of love..."
    That's also how I perceive Ne creatives. They 'create' Ne and inject into the environment and it seems kinda acted.





    On the other hand, intuition is not something I can easily 'shut down' or 'control it's expression to have some effect on my environment'. My insights are very personal, as are my plans, ideas and I don't share them to influence other people. Ne dominants are just weird and absentminded & honestly I don't see that much difference between my behaviour and that of IEI-Ni, ILI-Ni and ILE-Ne regarding Ni vs Ne; maybe a bit more expressive, playful and non-sensical. I think those are positive qualities...

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    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    That's also how I perceive Ne creatives. They 'create' Ne and inject into the environment and it seems kinda acted.




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    Victim types are weirder.

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    dad is a stereotypical midwit LII and his 1D fe is a sight to behold. no amount of te justification will make me sympathize with a ne creative

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    I've had dealings with hundreds of every type, and some of every type had childish aspects in their behaviour and or had eccentricities. "Childlike" is a term that belongs with words like intuitive, feeling, irrational and judging; they all have dictionary meanings that shouldn't be really applied to information processing. And "weird" is a very subjective term that usually comes from within circles that consider themselves the norm, thus making outsiders subject to ridicule. Let's create a new term called "typism" (a milder form of racism?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by capricieux View Post
    dad is a stereotypical midwit LII and his 1D fe is a sight to behold. no amount of te justification will make me sympathize with a ne creative
    @capricieux, is your avatar a picture of you? The woman in the photo looks a lot like my LII sister, although yeah, she could be ESI, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    @capricieux, is your avatar a picture of you? The woman in the photo looks a lot like my LII sister, although yeah, she could be ESI, too.
    obviously not

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