Gilly is Ti ESTp

[Shazaam]

ENTjs, ESTjs and INTps argue that aggressively and blunt. But other Te valuers don't seem to. ENFps/ISTps/ESFp/ISFj all just seem too... idk what's a good word for it, ?victimy? for that style of arguing, and I don't think you yourself 'straight forward attack' anybody. Victimy sounds too harsh but I don't know how else to say it.

I guess my point is , that I agree with you, but it depends on where Te is in the psyche. That largely seems to be like a Te-ego/Te-creative thing rather than something that is purely Te-valuing.

And often, I will think I'm being direct and blunt as hell, but I am a gay guy whose name is in pink. That is bound to make other people think that I can't be precise and direct, I guess. =p

[Jenna]

And don't you think subconsciously, you'd be more comfortable with someone you've met before? And someone you can talk socionics with? That obviously influenced and biased her decision-making. Which is important, if you're going to believe her argument based on impressions, and not facts.

Lmao, and again, it's not about comfort.

Te-POLR. Time and experience doesn't mean you truly got it yet. Does a garbage-picker of 20 years experience know how to advise a young person on career paths? Can someone on a socionics forum for 5 years accurately type others?

It seems you are only paying attention to the first half of my statement, not the rest which actually contained the meaning. Someone on a socionics forum for 5 years can accurately type others, certainly, but they have to be competent enough to understand how the functions are used in daily life.

That's ok if it makes sense to you, I'll agree to disagree.

Okay, so basically you disagree with expat's description, despite him being one of the few actual experts. Imo this is the short version of what they both were saying - Se gives the movement, Ni gives the direction. Se without Ni is sporadic.

She doesn't have to include EVERYTHING. Just maybe something socionics-related, other than deducing that 'high-fiving' must clearly be Se. Do you know what Te-POLR is? Do you realize she wasn't JUST telling details about her visit with Gilly, but that everything was a sub-argument to her overall point, her THREAD TITLE, that Gilly is Ti ESTp?

She did include some things that were socionics related, but some of it was also just about meeting him. Also, stop belittling me when YOU are the one not getting it. No, NOT everything was about his type, ffs, she included things about his hair and eyelashes. Of course the title said "Gilly is Ti ESTp" but obviously not all of it is about that -it's about BOTH. Do you understand or do we have to continue repeating this?

Read better. It was a response to the statement I had quoted.

How about you read what I said? Yes, you were saying "you don't remember why?" to her saying " I don't remember why, but I remember being like zowned, bitchez!"(or something like that) But what are you actually addressing? What are you actually questioning in her statement?

I didn't say she had to explain the entire thing at all. Just would have preferred a more formal argument, as opposed to sloppy impressions. HEY GUYZ, GILLY POOPS TI, AMIRITE???

"you don't remember everything about meeting him?" That's what you said.
Also, dolphin isn't even doing the things you are trying to say she's doing.

Te-POLR.

No, that's called questioning your assumptions that you based off of nothing.

If so, I'd like to know what other factors she's basing it on. That's all.

I'll address this at the bottom.

As others say it's good enough, it's easy to type someone on the internet, more than you think. Ask Ashton. I've seen pictures of Gilly, and have read countless posts of his. Fe all over the place! Ti-seeking.

Typing someone based on RL interaction is obviously more accurate than via photos, the forum, or a video.


Now, the way you are acting is uncalled for. What I said I would address at the bottom - if that is simply all that you were doing then you could have done so, civilly. Instead, you choose to act condescending and insulting. Had you acted cordial, I possibly wouldn't have even responded to you, but you weren't.

[Creepy-Snaps]

Please, before you get offended or scathing, please take a moment to consider that no one is hurting you, or challenging your views

lolNiPoLR.

Jenna was!!! *tattles*

Thank you for the answers to my questions. I may consider ESTp somewhat better now. I don't view Se that way, will respond better when I get a chance.

[Creepy-Snaps]

Two can play that game, Absurd.

[Absurd]

Two can play that game, Absurd.

What game?

I'm not nor was member of ****** Youth.

[Jenna]

Just said that I wouldn't have acted that way to you if you weren't acting like that to dolphin initially (and actually in other posts in various parts of the forum) . It's also a good example of Ni PoLR. Aside from that, you did the same thing to me, making your whole complaint completely invalid, even though what I said actually wasn't a good example of Te PoLR, it was your defense mechanism.

[EyeSeeCold]

dolphin, you wouldn't mind making a trip to Ashton's pad would you? For type reasons, that is.


I only ask cause I thought you guys were close or something, relationally so.



EDIT: Ah okay, whenever you get back to the thread.

[golden]

Hey, Dolphin. I'd like to thank you for posting about describing your time spent with Gilly (and Gilly for not minding that Dolphin posted about it). A lot of the things written in this thread make sense to me. I also agree with what Slacker observed about Ti-style argumentation strategies.

[EyeSeeCold]

You pompous little insect. Get the fuck out of my thread.

If you couldn't discern, I'm dead serious.

[Absurd]

You pompous little insect. Get the fuck out of my thread.

I think she wants to say that Ashton is beyond doubt and any inquiry ESC, in other words, he is untouchable. I'm still waiting for Gilly to voice his innermost desires not to mention his opinion. All in all, it's the beginning of an end.

[EyeSeeCold]

I think she wants to say that Ashton is beyond doubt and any inquiry ESC, in other words, he is untouchable. I'm still waiting for Gilly to voice his innermost desires not to mention his opinion. All in all, it's the beginning of an end.

That may be so, since I've never disrespected her, it would make sense to get that response if she's protective of her friends, unless I unknowingly did just previously. Though I'd rather have her present herself for direct communication.

[Absurd]

That may be so, since I've never disrespected her, it would make sense to get that response if she's protective of her friends, unless I unknowingly did just previously. Though I'd rather have her present herself for direct communication.

This thread is about Gilly and how he fits into the world.

[Slacker]

There is already a thread claiming Ashton is SLE. If you want to discuss Ashton and his type, that might be a good place to do it.

[strrrng]

It is very charming. It was a fascinating story. Interesting read. But although, even if it wasn't intended to show his type, the fact that some people are seriously considering him as Ti ESTp now, because of the 'charm' form of writing, I do have a problem with.

her post was a unit of perception; there's no difference in intent between her 'charm' and analysis -- which conveys meaning more effectively than some sterile reduction tailored to a person who still has to catch up with this forum's act.

I think perhaps many of the people who have indicated agreement are coming from a larger body of information than they reference. It's not an..argument. It's not my argument. It's not my debate. Like I said, I'm going to the grave with this typing. You may believe whatever you like.

case in point.

No one really "took initiative". We kinda just said "Want to do this? Ok, sounds good." without any problems. This was due to the fact that there were no Si/Ne people to argue with, delay action, or masturbate over a map. We'd be like "Lets do this" and "Ok". *takes action*. imo there was zero conflict about "what we should do" and shit.

yes, he greeted me with a six-pack.

[Creepy-Snaps]

I want to apologize to Jenna and dolphin. I wasn't in my right frame of mind earlier (believe me, I DO have one ), and I was starting arguments for no good reason. Sorry for my childish behavior.

[Jenna]

Thanks MD <3

[Kierva]

lol what does Gilly have to say about this?

[Gilly]

Props to Dew for being a man

[Gilly]

I think her thoughts are good. Being sle would explain a lot of things. I'm still sorting through it but the impressions dolphin has conveyed to me have really helped make sense of some things that have surfaced recently. I have felt certain before so I am kind of hesitant but I think there is a good chance she is right.

[Reuben]

I didn't realize this thread was to be taken seriously.

I think Gilly is awesome-subtype.