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    Cool Calculator of Reinin Dichotomies Now ONLINE;)))


    Here is the translation of my presentation speech!
    Let's start your lesson using the Calculator Reynin’s dichotomy. First you must enter values for some of you suggested scales. Values can be entered in two ways: using the slider or by manually clicking on the special cell. Values choose wisely! Remember that each percentage exhibited exactly the implied warranty of Socionics, which he claimed Typing exact percentage of cases. Explain each meaningful percentage of what and where you have been took - because that is the way to achieve accurate typing.
    After entering the values - click the "Calculate" - and the program will give you the answer.
    Note that moving the slider - you can not establish the accuracy higher than 95%. This can only be done by clicking on a special cell, as if hinting that achieve accuracy above 95% - is not easy
    Now, I'll demonstrate how to increase the number of defined dichotomies as well as their accuracy is achieved by improving the overall accuracy of the final version - the main advantage of using dichotomy Reynin’s!
    https://isocionics.com/library/reini...omy/reinincalc
    https://isocionics.com/file_archive/...einincalc2.htm
    Download can be found here:


    Once downloaded, Excel-file - allow to use "macros do not disable macros." If this menu does not appear go to: Tools-Macro-Security, select Medium security level, and then restart Excel. Then dialogvoe menu should always appear.

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    Author: Yaroslav V. Polozov, Neganov Yuri Ivanovich, Alyaksandr Rybak.
    Translated from the language Pascal (DOS-version) in Excel and create a visual interface -
    Bobin Andrey (at sots.forumah - deepexp),

    09/08/2011
    Last edited by Yaaroslav; 03-08-2023 at 11:38 AM. Reason: I had updated my site and need to change links

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    This is all in Russian?

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    Yes, but for a special reward I can do in English $))))))

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    That's quite interesting, Yaaroslav, indeed. Especially since you can just change 2 dichotomies while leaving the rest as 50/50 and you still obtain a probability estimate. Thanks for the contribution.

    It can be used as a very good basis for typing. Oftentimes, people can be very uncertain about many of their original jungian dichotomies, but might identify strongly with one or two reinin. So, combining the two approaches, we can almost always reach a probabilistic diagnosis that excludes a large part of the socion, at the very least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    That's quite interesting, Yaaroslav, indeed. Especially since you can just change 2 dichotomies while leaving the rest as 50/50 and you still obtain a probability estimate. Thanks for the contribution.

    It can be used as a very good basis for typing. Oftentimes, people can be very uncertain about many of their original jungian dichotomies, but might identify strongly with one or two reinin. So, combining the two approaches, we can almost always reach a probabilistic diagnosis that excludes a large part of the socion, at the very least.
    I think you need to understand the main idea: that reliably accurate typing is to provide a logical proof of redundancy. This calculator - a tool for its measurement and comparison.
    I suggest everyone do it, "the official measure."
    Second you need to understand that - is that at this point in Socionics is no any (we are talking about the simple rules) criterion, which would ensure the accuracy of close to 100%.

    Provides high accuracy of any rules or perform complex to ensure logic redundancy in the proof of simple rules. (These are the two ways to achieve high accuracy of typing, the first achievement in some basis of dichotomies, each with 95%, or receipt of a large number of dichotomies at the level of average quality (average 80%) - and both can provide the resulting high accuracy, but quantity of labor as a whole will be the same Ie: large)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    That's quite interesting, Yaaroslav, indeed. Especially since you can just change 2 dichotomies while leaving the rest as 50/50 and you still obtain a probability estimate. Thanks for the contribution.

    It can be used as a very good basis for typing. Oftentimes, people can be very uncertain about many of their original jungian dichotomies, but might identify strongly with one or two reinin. So, combining the two approaches, we can almost always reach a probabilistic diagnosis that excludes a large part of the socion, at the very least.
    Interesting perspective. Sounds well-thought and scientific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaaroslav View Post
    Yes, but for a special reward I can do in English $))))))
    Haha fat chance mate!

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    So has anyone run the program out of curiosity? Does it have a key-logger?

    I shall wait like an owl and learn from other's mistakes.
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    And now, count up (in the distant future) will argue two Socionists: one insists on the release of type 1, the second version to type 2. It is assumed that they have a fairly accurate assessment of the criteria (this is certainly not the reality of Socionics nowdays! But this should be seeking), which they enjoyed. Who is closer to the truth? - That's it for tasks such calculator RD (which in turn can be also modified by other criteria) - is a tool to solve these contradictions.
    Also a calculator will be a measure of OS quality: Let there be a standard adopted on the basis of which a version of TIM would have been deemed official if the version is determined with an accuracy not lower than, say 95%. of course: how to achieve this accuracy a lot, because of variety of techniques, so that does not inhibit any of Socionists, which Preferred one or another technique - the calculator could be a useful tool by which each of Socionists could prove to her, but eventually come to reliable conclusions.

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    Yaaroslav I probably understand socionics better than you. Don't try to lecture me - especially given that I actually SUPPORT your calculator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    J'ai une question s'il vous plaît. Pourquoi votre avatar d'une femelle?
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    Neat! It looks handy. I'll have to check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    J'ai une question s'il vous plaît. Pourquoi votre avatar d'une femelle?
    LOL
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    Isn't this the same as:
    http://socionics.org/test/reinincalc.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    No, and I can explain Why?
    Actually the history of creating of my calculator was begin since acquaintance with this calculator in 2006. But, after few calculations I realised that, there is something goes wrong!!!
    The problem is: Calculator calculates wrong!
    Here is the Example
    Enter: 100% to Jung Basis for the ENTP
    75% Rest dichotomies for the ESTP
    Result - 30% ESTP, 9% ENTP and ets.
    Here is the screenshot on for the free version which do the same way of the calculations:
    http://aki-zeta-5.fotoplex.ru/Reinincalc/photo96619/
    - This is nonsense!!!
    The logical sense of dichotomy, which was identified with accuracy 100% - is the absolute truth, so if you consider that you have been mistake when you identified dichotomy with a 100% accuracy - that means you didn't identified it with 100% accuracy. You have been mistake also when you identified the accuracy.
    If you will use my version - you will not face such troubles:
    When you will enter 100% Basis Jung for the ENTP, and 75% for the ESTP - the answer will still be: ENTP 100%
    Also if you would enter for example: dichotomy: QuesTIM - DeclaTIM: 100% DeclaTIM - the answer would be 6,25 - to all types, Because - that means that you have been made a fatal mistake

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    Edit: I chose more decisive because once I make up my mind it is hard to change it. I hope I understood the meaning right.

     


    Last edited by Aylen; 07-05-2014 at 08:58 PM.

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    How do you people do this? Which link is the correct one?

    @Aylen, please help

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    How do you people do this? Which link is the correct one?

    @Aylen, please help
    http://happylife.kiev.ua/file_archiv...reinincalc.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    How do you people do this? Which link is the correct one?

    @Aylen, please help
    Aylen's links are the correct ones. She knows all Reinin schemes for everyone here, so ask her to illuminate you about your own life and personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    How do you people do this? Which link is the correct one?

    @Aylen, please help
    The link that Olly provided is the one I used. I just screenshot my results since they did not format correctly when I tried to copy and paste. I am aware you were not asking me how to answer the questions.

    But Rose often gives good advice so you may want to listen to her on this one.

    Aylen's links are the correct ones. She knows all Reinin schemes for everyone here, so ask her to illuminate you about your own life and personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    The link that Olly provided is the one I used. I just screenshot my results since they did not format correctly when I tried to copy and paste. I am aware you were not asking me how to answer the questions.

    But Rose often gives good advice so you may want to listen to her on this one.
    That wasn't advice, I was just being sarcastic and passive-aggressive. At the same time. And my name is not Rose btw, don't try to baptize me. You can express an opinion while attempting to type me, but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    That wasn't advice, I was just being sarcastic and passive-aggressive. At the same time. And my name is not Rose btw, don't try to baptize me. You can express an opinion while attempting to type me, but that's about it.
    Apparently my own sarcasm was lost on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Apparently my own sarcasm was lost on you.
    I don't like you and we have nothing in common. Find yourself new users to stalk (hopefully someone you admire).

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    Ofc now I've figured out that I've fucked up the merry-serious dichotomy - I'm extremely merry and not serious, so yeah, nevermind the results

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    @rosewood how did you manage to mistype yourself into anything but ILI at first

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    @rosewood how did you manage to mistype yourself into anything but ILI at first
    The same goes for you. When I post pics and video to offer you something else for typing or when I fill in the Member's Questionnaire , you can come up with opinions. Until then, go comment on other users. What I type is my problem and that's still in process. Go check Holon's thread, there's much more material there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    The same goes for you. When I post pics and video to offer you something else for typing or when I fill in the Member's Questionnaire , you can come up with opinions. Until then, go comment on other users. What I type is my problem and that's still in process. Go check Holon's thread, there's much more material there.
    Oh the irony of you calling me a bitch. Nevermind, I will not talk to you again. God bless your boyfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Oh the irony of you calling me a bitch. Nevermind, I will not talk to you again. God bless your boyfriend.
    I just said I profoundly dislike you. That has nothing to do with your human quality. I do like others, though, my bf included. Let him be, he's a grown-up, can take care of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    I just said I profoundly dislike you. That has nothing to do with your human quality. I do like others, though, my bf included. Let him be, he's a grown-up, can take care of himself.
    I was just worried about the poor guy, since you seemed to be so concerned about my ability to enchant LSI's.

    Don't worry, the feeling is mutual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollyx2OxenFree View Post

    c'est la vie


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    Interesting, strange. Also, I only gave preferences for yielding/obstinate, farsighted/carefree, constructive/emotive, judicious/decisive, negative/positive, and asking/declaring.

    Screen shot 2014-07-06 at 11.08.03 AM.png

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    The first time I took the test, I got the following results:

    INTj: 27.60%

    ESFp: 26.52%

    ENFj: 18.23%

    ISTp: 17.51%

    INTp: 1.71%

    ESTp: 1.71%

    INFj: 1.64%


    These are the results I got when I took it a second time:

    INTj: 79.58%

    INTp: 4.92%

    ENFj: 4.92%

    ESTp: 4.92%

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