I've become fascinated with the plus-and-minus version of Model A.
This actually seems to be of huge, and underappreciated, significance. Am I misunderstanding something, and getting all excited over nothing? At first it seemed like this was saying that (for instance, with a SLI) their base function was -Si, which I am very well aware of. However, there's also that little thing which we skim over and ignore - the +Se next to it.
The first dozen or so times that I read this chart, I just didn't know what to make of it. Since I don't speak Russian (yet), I only get the tiny scraps of information that people randomly throw at me. So I haven't seen any detailed explanation of why there are two functions in each box, why one of them is the opposite sign and vertedness of the other.
So I'm sort of doing this all by myself. I'm trying to imagine what if I actually have +Se as some part of my base function. Perhaps it is an underdeveloped or underappreciated part or shadow or something. I am remembering many things from my past - for instance, when I was fourteen years old or so, I stumbled upon a book called 'When I Say No I Feel Guilty,' which was a book about assertiveness training. I eagerly read the book and learned the techniques. And in fact I have always been interested in techniques and methods for influencing people through communication, persuading people, and so on, and that's one reason why I'm interested in socionics.
I also was always very interested in free will, very concerned when I didn't have it or when my freedom was taken away, and I also always had the feeling that I had a strong enough will to accomplish whatever I wanted (until a couple disasters happened, such as my becoming sick and then having 'unwanted mental phenomena,' but that was all later in life, not when I was young). I also like music that empowers me in a way that doesn't fit the descriptions of Si music (in Wikisocion), but seems to awaken something that better fits the description of Se.
There are other examples that I'm sure I'll remember later.
So after looking at this + and - chart with +Se as part of my base function somehow, I'm wondering if I actually have that side of me and didn't know what to look for or didn't know how to describe it. I want to know more about what it is, why there is a second function in the box, and whether anybody else can 'relate to' the 'other' function in your box on that chart.
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. I know that supposedly the SLI, and delta, values Si. But we don't usually say that they value Se at all. So this plus and minus thing is saying there are actually two kinds of Si, two kinds of Se, and all that, and we value one kind and we don't like the other kind. But you can value something that has a minus sign. The way to know if it's valued is if it's in your top row of boxes (the ego block) or the third row down (the super-id block). That was what I meant by valued.



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, and so on. I've included the wiki references and the cms reference on this site for any additional research.
= internal statics of objects (potentiality of object)
= external statics of objects ( outward traits of objects)
= external dynamics of objects (external activity of objects)
= internal dynamics of objects (internal activity of objects)
= internal dynamics of fields(intangible connections between processes separated in time and space)
= external dynamics of fields(tangible connections between processes happening in one place and time)
= external statics of fields(logical relationships between objects)
= internal statics of fields (subjective relationships between objects)

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