Do me

[Beautiful sky]

Wrong. I did not say I was a skillful flirt; I said people assume I'm flirting with them when I'm just being friendly.

Also, outside info does convince me to an extent. But I need good reasoning to go along with it, which you fail to provide. What I want is more of your own thoughts and ideas on a personal level (kind of like Phthalate did by taking my own words, breaking them down with his own thoughts/opinions, and then providing outside sources) and less of the "you fit this profile because this one sentence about flirting applies to you" opinions. If that's how typing is determined, I'd be all 16 types, because I'm almost certain there's going to at least be one sentence in every type profile that sounds a bit like me.



Reuben, are you even capable of making babies?

Ok, so you started this thread with "Do me" and then with a winky/eyebrow thing is not flirting...???? I think a less flirty notion is "Type me"

[Roro]

Ok, so you started this thread with "Do me" and then with a winky/eyebrow thing is not flirting...???? I think a less flirty notion is "Type me"

Sleazy, not Flirty.

[MisterNi]

Maybe she's been sent here to save us from Reuben? Lol

They're a match made in heaven.

[Roro]

Back to the topic, anybody who has anything to say about what it was originally made for.

[Red Villain]

Describe what you see:








Q1.) What do you enjoy?

Q2.) What irritates you?

Q3.) What would you like to change about yourself?

Q4.) What sort of people do you tend to avoid?

[Beautiful sky]

Sleazy, not Flirty.

lololololol

[Nico1e]

Ok, I won't.

VI doesn't really interest me too much though. It's cool to think about, but . . . how do you know I didn't get plastic surgery done or something? I know there has to be better ways at determining a persons type than "VI guesstimates."

Actually, no joke, plastic surgery provides me with some important information about a person's socionics type, if I can tell that they've had plastic surgery. It means that they are insecure about their physical appearance and they're not strong enough to tolerate being imperfect, so, Michael Jackson for instance.... There are particular groups of people who have a much higher likelihood of getting plastic surgery and disvaluing a natural appearance and natural flaws.

But yeah, I don't do VI from photos, although I get a lot of info from videos.

So far, we're determining your type by watching who interacts with you, and how successfully they interact with you, in order to figure out what quadra you're in. It might change you from an ISFP to an ESFP, for instance, if you get along better with the gamma quadra. In socionics we have the concept of 'introverted extraverts.' Some people type as introverts, or extraverts, in the MBTI, but socionists might type them as extraverts that are not socially outgoing. Anyway.

Basically, if someone gets plastic surgery, I am very likely to classify them in the Si-disvaluing quadras, gamma or beta.

[Beautiful sky]

She's a merry type, you'll never see an SEE type act like her (this is not a negative comment, just an observation). In stating things about trusting, she's saying that she prefers Fe over Fi.

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ry_and_serious

She's pretty much getting a subjective impression of all of us by the posts that we make here and she'll choose who she can trust and who is pleasant to be around, hence doing Si. She's just getting internal reactions from us. If you change your internal state, as in get upset or pissy by the introduction and such, she gets a psychic reading from you...as in one may seem to be negative, another too serious etc.

Fi types would prefer to have a subdued, serious environment, and more empathetic.

[Nico1e]

Cardinal, if you would like to have my babies, you are most likely ILE. SEI's dislike having babies because they are too lazy to push 'em out.

I know you're joking. But actually, there are lots of Si types who really get into the experience of natural childbirth and accepting the sensations of it. This isn't the time and place for me to go on a 'natural childbirth' rant though. And again, I realize you're joking, I just found it sort of annoying. The 'Si is lazy' thing bothers me.

[Phthalate]

She's a merry type, you'll never see an SEE type act like her (this is not a negative comment, just an observation). In stating things about trusting, she's saying that she prefers Fe over Fi.

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ry_and_serious

She's pretty much getting a subjective impression of all of us by the posts that we make here and she'll choose who she can trust and who is pleasant to be around, hence doing Si.

I actually agree with this. She's definitely a Fe-user.

[Roro]

Describe what you see:








Q1.) What do you enjoy?

Q2.) What irritates you?

Q3.) What would you like to change about yourself?

Q4.) What sort of people do you tend to avoid?

Why are all of the photos so... dark? Deathly? Are you depressed, Rob? I like the horse though. I just got back from seeing Real Steal. Fighting robotic horses could be entertaining.


Q1.) *Sigh* The things most normal people enjoy. Eating babies, getting high, standing on the street corner, your mom...
Q2.) The above question. But only because I'm asked that question so much, online and in person, that it just becomes irritating. In all honesty though, I don't get irritated too easily. I'll think about this one some more and see if anything comes to mind. *shrug*
Q3.) Eh, I think I'd just prefer to be a bit less skeptical of people and their intentions with me. And perhaps change the fact that I can't make decisions very easily... it could be nice to make a decision in less than a week, without constantly doubting whether or not it's going to be the right decision.
Q4.) Mostly people who don't show me any sort of respect, people who don't think about what they do before they do it, people who constantly make stupid decisions, and people who need constant attention and/or emotional support.

[Roro]

She's a merry type, you'll never see an SEE type act like her (this is not a negative comment, just an observation). In stating things about trusting, she's saying that she prefers Fe over Fi.

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ry_and_serious

She's pretty much getting a subjective impression of all of us by the posts that we make here and she'll choose who she can trust and who is pleasant to be around, hence doing Si. She's just getting internal reactions from us. If you change your internal state, as in get upset or pissy by the introduction and such, she gets a psychic reading from you...as in one may seem to be negative, another too serious etc.

Fi types would prefer to have a subdued, serious environment, and more empathetic.

This is the first post (about me) from you that I've actually somewhat liked.

It's true. Even in real life. There are usually two scenarios for me in real life.

1.) I will meet a person, automatically get a good vibe, and that's that.
2.) I will meet a person, get "weird" vibes from them, and then sit back and observe them for a while before deciding whether or not they're worth anymore initiation from me.

Scenario one rarely ever happens, so most people I end up observing from a distance for a while before deciding whether or not they're "friend" worthy or not. I can have some serious frickin' trust issues, I have no shame in admitting that. Unless a person proves to me that they're not out to screw me over, the skepticism is usually always there.

[Beautiful sky]

This is the first post (about me) from you that I've actually somewhat liked.

It's true. Even in real life. There are usually two scenarios for me in real life.

1.) I will meet a person, automatically get a good vibe, and that's that.
2.) I will meet a person, get "weird" vibes from them, and then sit back and observe them for a while before deciding whether or not they're worth anymore initiation from me.

Scenario one rarely ever happens, so most people I end up observing from a distance for a while before deciding whether or not they're "friend" worthy or not. I can have some serious frickin' trust issues, I have no shame in admitting that. Unless a person proves to me that they're not out to screw me over, the skepticism is usually always there.

Comparing that, an Extravert holds a positive response to all people. Imagine that. You're an introvert because you differentiate, subjectively, which person (or object) you like over another.

[Roro]

Comparing that, an Extravert holds a positive response to all people. Imagine that. You're an introvert because you differentiate, subjectively, which person (or object) you like over another.

I never said I wasn't an introvert. There's a good possibility I am, *shrug* it's like I've been pointing out all along though... I just like good reasoning to back things up.

I will still talk to pretty much everybody and be friendly with them, but there's a huge difference between somebody I KNOW I can trust, and somebody who is still at the crossroads. I could give MisterNi as an example. He's cool, and I have no reason to dislike him, but I after being called an male-seeking attention whore by him when he doesn't even know me, I wonder about his intentions. I mean, no feelings were hurt by the statement... I guess I just don't like being judged so quickly, because I've learned the hard way through life that there is so much more to a person than what they display on the exterior. Would it make a difference now if I were to say that I'm a lesbian? Would I still be a male-seeking attention whore? *shrug*

I guess y'all are getting a good sense of my E6 here.

Oh, and you were right, I totally put a winking smiley in the original post. haha, I just realized that.

[Reuben]

Robyn you male-seeking attention whore.

Come here let me hug you and nurse your lesbian wounds.

[Creepy-Snaps]

Definitely Fe ego. Alpha>Beta.

[Creepy-Snaps]

Oh, and you were right, I totally put a winking smiley in the original post. haha, I just realized that.

Smilies are awesome!!!!

[Anglas]

IMO
I'm thinking which one is more dumb maritsa or reuben

[Roro]

IMO
I'm thinking which one is more dumb maritsa or reuben

Poor little Reuben. Everybody hates on him.

I think he's a decent person. A little annoying with the constant 'sex' talk and whatnot, but I'm almost certain he'd be a pretty cool person to hang out with and whatnot. I don't think his online persona is exactly how he is irl. I think there's more depth to him than what he shows on here most of the time, lol, but that's just my opinion.

No Reuben, I don't want your nasty babies. And you still suck. Now STFU and get on all fours.

[EyeSeeCold]

IMO
I'm thinking which one is more dumb maritsa or reuben

Ti-PoLR.

[Park]

It's true. Even in real life. There are usually two scenarios for me in real life.

1.) I will meet a person, automatically get a good vibe, and that's that.
2.) I will meet a person, get "weird" vibes from them, and then sit back and observe them for a while before deciding whether or not they're worth anymore initiation from me.

So which scenario does Maritsa fall into?

[Roro]

So which scenario does Maritsa fall into?

The heck? Lol. Well I don't really know her, but I'm going to assume if I met her in real life she'd give off good vibes. She'd be an honest person and whatnot, I would just get annoyed by her way of thinking and her reasoning for things. She seems cool enough and I like that she tries to help people, but I feel that if we were a real life "pair" we'd constantly be at each others throat. Me by telling her that she doesn't have a good approach at handling things, and her telling me that I'm too insensitive to her emotions.

I think her way of talking/typing kind of reminds me of an old friend, and the above scenario was usually the case with us lol.

[Phthalate]

and her telling me that I'm too insensitive to her emotions.

Do I smell some Fi-PoLR (xLE-ism)?

[Roro]

Do I smell some Fi-PoLR (xLE-ism)?

Nah. Some people are just overly emotional and think that any sort of constructive criticism is aimed at them in a "mean" way. :-/ It's meant to help! And I think I do a pretty damn good job with using some tact!

[d1ffe7]

So far I'm going to say ILE.

It does seem to be alpha's nature to question business hierarchies as a pose to just accepting that it is the way it is. ILE's are pretty likely to have the audacity to speak their mind about such things. ILE's have the audacity to speak their mind about anything, which you seem to be doing quite a bit. You mentioned being able to visualize things, sometimes seeming aloof (anti-object focus could be good sign of intuitive), always have new ideas, etc. which all seem indicative of Ne base. What you said about being skeptical and having to weigh outside information based on your own logic practically mirrors the definition of Ti. Also, when you said you want more than external references when people where typing you could be a sign of Ti.

You mention that you don't want a parter that is overly emotional or more aggressive than you, will be fairly romantic, and understanding that you need a time away from them. Of course, these words are kind of vague and can be taken as many different functions, but I don't think that any of these contradict having SEI as your dual.

Finally, I could see you having Fi PoLR. You said you try to use tact, but if something needs to be said you'll ignore hurting someone's feelings, and you said something similar regarding Maritsa/being insensitive to emotions. This could also be Fi ignoring, but I'm not really getting Fe base from you.

Edit: Ha, I think you just said you don't think you have Fi-PoLR, but I'm still going with it. I feel like I've heard ILE's say they have tact before anyway. Maybe it's a Fe-HA thing? I don't know, just a thought.

[Beautiful sky]

Both Si and Ni are quite capable of visualizing things. Ne finds external possibilities.

Question:

Do you feel healthy pleasure from the things that you do?

Do you neglect your well being like resting, eating, relaxing? This may not always be about food; I have many SEI friends who show up to work with their hair done every day, taking care of their external looks, but are overworked because of the job that they do. That wouldn't be considered neglect of ones' well being.

A person's insensitivity to the hidden emotions of others is a preference for Fe over Fi, this makes the two hard to understand one another, but SEI have Fi demonstrating, so from time to time, they will let out a cry to show their fragile emotions and ask questions out of frustration like, "why does he [a person who may have wronged them] do this?" They will also seem like they want a relationship.

[d1ffe7]

Both Si and Ni are quite capable of visualizing things. Ne finds external possibilities

That's true, but she said visualizing things how could/should be done, and that seems like external possibilities to me.

[Beautiful sky]

That's taking Ideas () and earthening them into reality. SEI are a process type too and are quite capable of doing that.

[Phthalate]

I have an idea... @AeroRobyn, why don't you tell us about how, why, when you turned a vegan/vegetarian, and what has it been like since? I believe this approach should be a better indicator than the current "forcing a function unto you" approach that's being given at the moment.

[Park]

I have an idea... @AeroRobyn, why don't you tell us about how, why, when you turned a vegan/vegetarian, and what has it been like since? I believe this approach should be a better indicator than the current "forcing a function unto you" approach that's being given at the moment.

[Roro]

LOL. Nice video, Park. I don' think I'd ever be on either end of that situation though, lol.

Phthalate, to answer your question: the only meats I ever really ate were beef, chicken, and the occasional turkey, because that's what I was raised on. At some point during high school, I watched a video about how we get our meat, in which a lot of graphic material involving cows was shown. It didn't hit me immediately. It actually took about a year before it hit me. I was at a Taco Bell with my cousin and grandmother one day eating some chalupas, and it was quiet at the table, so I just began examining my food as I was eating it. I finished my chalupas, and then a few days later I decided to watch videos again over cow slaughtering. And it was pretty much then that I thought, 'Ok, those cows didn't deserve that, I think I'm going to stop eating beef so I can save those poor cows' lives.' I still ate chicken, though; and the occasional turkey. It took about two years before I finally realized, 'hey, birds are animals too, they shouldn't be slaughtered either. Let me save their lives as well.' So I guess you can say the vegetarian part was pretty much for the sake of the animals.

The vegan part... never really appealed to me. Heck, it took me about three years from watching slaughter videos to finally decide to go FULL vegetarian. Then, about two years ago, I met a girl, who happened to be vegan, in one of my classes. For about two months she would constantly talk to me about the benefits of being vegan and whatnot. I would usually just think to myself, 'Ok, that's nice. Enjoy being vegan, but I like cheese. I love animals, but as I'm not eating an actual dead animal I'm fine.' Then she started telling me benefits outside of animal rights - for instance, weight loss, increased energy, etc. So I finally thought to myself, what the hell, I'll give it a try. After a few months of it, I realized I actually was saving some money, and I actually had lost some weight, and it just sort of stuck with me.

These days it's just whatever. I don't take veganism that seriously. I don't spend much money as it is, and if I really want to lose weight there are other options to pursue besides being completely vegan. I mean, there are certain things that I will NOT eat (such as gelatin) just because they're derived directly from dead animals; however, I have no problem eating a piece of cheese occasionally if I so desire. And I'm certainly not going to scold others because they like to eat meat. To each their own; we're all capable of making our own decisions when it comes to our diet.


Maritsa, your questions: Do I feel healthy pleasure from the things I do? Hmm... sure? It's never really dawned on me to ask myself, "hey does this make me feel a great deal of pleasure?" before doing it. That's not to say I don't like things that "pleasure" me, it just isn't what I necessarily put all of my focus on. The majority of the time, even if something seems like it may be pleasurable to me, I will ask myself if doing it will be worth what it could possibly lead to afterwards. *Shrug* Not sure if that answers your question, but it was kind of a weird question to begin with.

As for the other question about neglecting my well being, I'm almost certain I answered a question similar to that in my questionnaire.


Ok, I'm tired. I don't want to type anymore right now.

[Reuben]

Are you cool with eating animals who died peacefully for us to consume? It is their ultimate sacrifice, the ultimate culmination of their being. If we don't eat them when they die, and use their essence, their protein, their blood and energy and life to change the world around us and make it a better place for their children and grandchildren and generations to come, then will not their death be pointless?

[Roro]

Are you cool with eating animals who died peacefully for us to consume?

You know how when you've gone a long time without doing any sort of physical exercise, and then one night you decide you want to do a few push-ups/sit-ups, only to wake up sore as hell the next morning because it had been so long and your body wasn't used to such 'harsh' activities?

I kind of feel that way if I were to ever eat meat again. I've gone so long without it, and my body isn't used to it, that I'd just end up upchucking every bit of it.

[Reuben]

You know how when you've gone a long time without doing any sort of physical exercise, and then one night you decide you want to do a few push-ups/sit-ups, only to wake up sore as hell the next morning because it had been so long and your body wasn't used to such 'harsh' activities?

How do you know me so well? But I used to do that kind of thing to shock my body back into fat-burning mode.

Perhaps, consume more egg and cheese, then try a bit of dory fish. Chicken breast. Then I don't know. Go for fattier fish. Small meatballs. Strip of bacon. A bit of duck. Then slices of your friend's steak. A whole burger. Then medium done steak. Then medium rare steak. Perhaps give yourself 3 months. Meat is not necessary, but it's great. Omega 3 and 6 (from fatty fish) however, are.

[Park]

LOL. Nice video, Park. I don' think I'd ever be on either end of that situation though, lol.

[Aquagraph]

Let it be SEI , and if subtype

[Roro]

Ok, so we've got one vote from Phthalate that actually matters. After all, he did actually ask me questions, and he actually does know me outside of the forum.

We've got one vote that will never matter from Maritsa, because she failed to come back and give any sort of logical explanation. Even if she did decide to though, I'm sure it wouldn't be quite logical.

Then we've got two votes that don't matter because those two have never talked to me, and gave no reasoning for their suggestion.


Perfect balance. I'm settled. SLI <3

[Aquagraph]

I refuse to believe it and to deny it. One of my closest friends, my brother, is a SLI and he's totally not like you. You seem way too alpha. Then again my knowledge of your personality, your habitus and so on is still vague. But to start the topic by flirting..?

SLIs are generally somewhat reclusive and fairly emotionally stoic. In situations where they are expected to engage emotionally, they can appear cold, dull, or antagonistic. In many cases they do not see the point of and prefer to avoid such situations as those with loud, rowdy behavior and prefer to subsist in more relaxed environments.

SLIs can be largely oblivious to social conventions. They generally do not try to follow the crowd unless there is some practical reason to do so. They are prone to dislike the spotlight and to prefer to travel on the less beaten path. They are often quite individualistic; they do not naturally seek the approval of others and are mostly self-subsistent in their activities.

- sociotype.com

Seriously, I don't got much of a clue what type you are. Maybe keep it open. Maybe read some SLI guides (you propably have), maybe some other type guides as well and re-evaluate.

[Wavebury]

Well I get ISFp from the way you type and your choice of colors lol. The pics dont contradict this typing ether.

[Roro]

I've changed my mind again. ESI.