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ESTp
You are so awesome.
I read that twice I enjoyed it so much.
You have just reminded me of why Se as a base function is unimpressive... at best. You can kick people's asses? That's nice. I wouldn't mind having my ass kicked. That's what lawyers were invented for. Sell your house, you owe me money. You may very well owe me money for decades to come.
Good job summing up the irriting thing about ESTps by the way. Thanks.
the ESTp will try to get into your pants
uhh... I see no reason to post anything "clever". That's just how life is.
You told us how ISTJs are similar and different from ESTPs, so how does the ESTP compare and contrast to ENFJ and INFP?
Gah the part about the looks is so true. Every time an ESTp sees that you're better looking/more fit than him, he'll tell you "you're ugly and fat". I have to come to recognize that it's the way they say "I am envious".
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
A very good caricature. Exaggerated, of course, but still recognizable. Very funny.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Thanks
ESTPs are great.
This post did kind of remind me of why they are not my dual though.
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
martin_g_karlsson
Hi I'm an INTJ married to an ESTp and I have to say HumanBean that while your deascription was exaggerated, it was very accurate in terms of my hubby. I couldn't have said it better myself! But that's why I love him
BTW do any other ESTps out there have the ability to manipulate large groups of people into doing their bidding in order to savor the feeling of being in absolute control? Just wondering, that ability has always fascinated me
Ahhhh, it's good to be ugly!
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
exactly
oyburger, if this is something that you love about your husband, it's unlikely that you're INTj.
"oyburger, if this is something that you love about your husband, it's unlikely that you're INTj."
Well actually it took me nearly a decade to come to love these things about my husband. Eventually we decided to accept what we consider each other's odd personality quirks if we wanted to stay together. Now he gives me my space and dosen't get mad when I say "Go away for few hours and leave me alone" and I don't get mad when he's a loud obnoxious egotist. I love things the about him that I am not and vice versa.
PS I'm pretty certain about being an INTj. I've taken several tests over the past few years and it's always come up INTj and never anything else. Plus I've never read anything that describes me more.
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
Strongly disagree.
i don't doubt you intjness, but how did you come to hook up with this estp?
LII
that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
"i don't doubt you intjness, but how did you come to hook up with this estp?"
He continuously approached me and I continuously ignored him for about 2 years. I didn't know him so I couldn't see why he was telling me he "loved me" etc. Eventually he wore down my defenses and I conceded defeat and decided to get to know him. He was 15 at the time and I was 16. For a couple of years family and friends held on to the belief that we wouldn't last. And considering how fast he goes through friends I didn't think so either, but here we are.
So in conclusion I was young and stupid and fell in love. But I don't regret it
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
AWWWW. That's the cutest thing I ever read! He's one of the good ESTPs, eh.
INFP
how does my thinking that ESTps are annoying mean that I have issues? there are a whole lot of people that find the stereotypical ESTp (not just the psychotic ones like in your description) annoying.
agreed!!!!!!!
lol I'm a real estate investor and home inspector
and I'm not saying that ESTps are annoying... I'm saying that many people, myself included, find them annoying. don't get me wrong... I'm sure I could be good friends with some ESTps, and I'm sure I could get along with most ESTps... it's just that the combination of their base function and hidden agenda often make my head hurt. I don't enjoy Fe... I use it for business and to make my life easier with relatives and whatnot, but seeing others delight in people's use of it bugs me. Seeing people delight in using it to delight others bugs me. That type of Fe is just excessively pointless and gets in the way of communication and accomplishment. Yes, I am being hypocritical because I use Fe to communicate and accomplish things... it's just the EXCESSIVENESS of Fe in the room that bothers me. And yes I know I am speaking in circles but right now I don't care.
bottom line- Fe and Se should (from my perspective) be tools... not things used for fun or pleasure or in any excessive or otherwise overpowering way
*sighs*
I like fun and pleasure, I just don't get them the same way some types do. it's not a matter of taking them too seriously. it's just that this use of those functions just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. perhaps it's a weakness that I allow myself to be so irritated. we all have weaknesses.
Well I certainly love all the ESTps I've ever met. For some reason I'm drawn to them. :wink:
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
i'm not an estp
asd
I like being with estps 'cos they offer me another perspective in life. But, I have to admit that when u get into their bad shoes, u r dead. a few of them turned my life into hell for quite some time during my school days, and even after 2 years since the ordeal, one of the estps whom i recently met still bore the same grudge. but, fortunately they belong to the minority of the estps i have known so far. :wink:
prolly not
That seems to be my reason too. I like their confidence and fearlessnessI like being with estps 'cos they offer me another perspective in life.
Yep my experience too when I was younger.But, I have to admit that when u get into their bad shoes, u r dead. a few of them turned my life into hell for quite some time
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
ESTps have never done anything significantly bad to be. I don't think they're *bad* or mean or evil or whatever.
true. the estps i knew can be insensitive sometimes, but they only do it in the name of fun. no "evil" motives intended.
insensitivity doesn't bother me... again, it's not so much the ESTps... it's the way others act around them that's the issue. one on one, I get along with ESTps rather well, actually.
I dont think i really know that many ESTP. Well actually i probablly do but i dont realise it. The ones i do think are ESTP are fine in my book. I respect confidence and when i watch someone being confident i feel myself learning and aspiring to be like that too
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Se =/= confidence
are you really honest here, joy? I sense something is hiding behind the bush... or something
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
yes, I am being honest. it's the way others interact with them (not the ESTps themselves) that irritate me
JOY YOU ARE AWESOME!! I WANT TO BE WITT YOO
Just curious but what is it about the interactions that annoy you?yes, I am being honest. it's the way others interact with them (not the ESTps themselves) that irritate me
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
wtf?
LIKE SHE WANTS THAT KIND OF ATTENTION AND THAT PEOPLE LAUGH AT THEM AND I KNEW THAT FEELING A LOT. IT IS JEALOAUSY AND IF SHE DENIES IT IT IS MORE lies. lies. lies.
like I said...
Mephisto, I've had more of that attention in the past 10 years than I could want in 10 lifetimes. It's fucking annoying. offensive even. I'd rather that the ESTps get it because then at least I can just walk away.I don't enjoy Fe... I use it for business and to make my life easier with relatives and whatnot, but seeing others delight in people's use of it bugs me. Seeing people delight in using it to delight others bugs me. That type of Fe is just excessively pointless and gets in the way of communication and accomplishment. Yes, I am being hypocritical because I use Fe to communicate and accomplish things... it's just the EXCESSIVENESS of Fe in the room that bothers me. And yes I know I am speaking in circles but right now I don't care.
so you want to.. enlighten the estp kind of? like it does not sees its mistakes? It hasnt done the observations of the surroundings that you have? they lack the experience?
no... that's how I feel about INFps, actually
No.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
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