Can Delta Quadra Types be Enneagram 4?

[willekeurig]

One delta 4 here

[InkStrider]

One delta 4 here

Impossible.. They don't exist.

[Galen]

Does having 4 in my tritype count?

 

no

[silke]

Seriously, from where come the need to reverse well know typing ? From what ive read, I agree that Dotoevsky is an archetypal EII... Existential heaviness arent the domain of Ni-Ti only...

Their typings are contested on Russian forums as well. I wasn't the only one to notice the discrepancy between their assigned IEs and the content of their literary works.

On a side note, something being "well-known" does not automatically make it right or correct.

Try Prince Myshkin in Dostoevsky's "The Idiot". Definite -base/-creative/-vulnerable.

Only that the types of characters do not have anything to do with the type of the author. Someone with a keep eye for human nature is free to create any personages and endow them with any personality really, and Dostoyevsky certainly wasn't lacking in this respect.

I remember strrrng highlighting some excellent Se PoLR moments from Notes from the Underground.

The most vivid example was something in a restaurant, he was hiding from something? It was this scene where he just becomes totally overwhelmed by his environment and is just trying to hide and have "peace" but everywhere he goes he is confronted with some caricatured intrusion on his attempt to calm himself down.

PoLR and DS functions get confused for each other. DS is weak to the point that it can serve as a source of neuroses, which sounds very similar to what you're describing with him feeling "overwhelmed" to the point that he needs to be "calmed down".

Some of Dostoyevsky's attitudes are very Fe-Ti in nature. This for example:

The more I detest men individually the more ardent becomes my love for humanity.

Personally I think Dostoyevski is EII. From what I have skimmed of his works in philo classes and notes I think Fi is very obvious.

He's got no Fi except for demonstrative.

[InkStrider]

Does having 4 in my tritype count?

 

no

. I am as intrigued by all sx primary types, though the 4 interest me just as much. I want to understand what goes on in their minds, how best to enrapture and capture them, that they shall be mine for all eternity. That such is impossible makes me crave it all the more.

[Galen]

. I am as intrigued by all sx primary types, though the 4 interest me just as much. I want to understand what goes on in their minds, how best to enrapture and capture them, that they shall be mine for all eternity. That such is impossible makes me crave it all the more.

Yep, sx first is pretty much the bees pajamas. I'm always more drawn to them above everybody else, sx/sp > sp/sx > sx/so in roughly that order.

Personally I'm most drawn to 8w9s and 9w8s.

[Creepy-pokeball]

Say hi to an ISTp 4, married to an ESTp 8, lol.

[willekeurig]

Impossible.. They don't exist.

I do

[ashlesha]

it's possible i exist and it's possible I'm a delta 4

[Galen]

Say hi to an ISTp 4, married to an ESTp 8, lol.

I would buy INFp for Hart over ISTp.