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    I'm thinking you meant < 1 hour prior instead of > 1 hour prior?

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    Perhaps you misunderstand. This has nothing to do with when one notices a desire to eat. Instead it asks when one thinks about becoming hungry, and so it is a question about the experience of conjectural meta-hunger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    Perhaps you misunderstand. This has nothing to do with when one notices a desire to eat. Instead it asks when one thinks about becoming hungry, and so it is a question about the experience of conjectural meta-hunger.
    If I understand this correctly, then I would say that it depends on how filling or satisfying the meal I just ate was.

    If the meal was less than satisfying, then I will think towards how long before I'll probably be hungry and/or can eat again, and how well that times with when my family wants to eat, or how it times with other events expected for that day.

    If it was close to satisfying, then I'm not worried about the timing of future hunger at all. I won't think about food until I'm actually hungry. Even after feeding family and me not ready to eat yet. (lol, which can sometimes lead me to going to bed hungry because by the time I got hungry, it was too late for me to eat for the night)

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    Here's an illustration of what I'm speaking of, this time with the mental event twice-removed from the bodily one.*

    En route to an unfamiliar suburb last night I was eating a sandwich and thinking about how to answer pianosinger on this subject. An example sprang to mind, that being the purchase of meat and other ingredients to barbeque ribs on the following day, and how one might imagine how something so tantalizing would spur on one's hunger as it neared completion. Now since I'd just filled my gut I wasn't hungry at the moment and was able to entertain this idea without actually feeling impelled to eat my imaginary ribs. Interestingly enough, however, as we neared our destination perhaps 10 minutes later we passed a BBQ establishment, and on sighting its brightly colored sign my mouth did in fact water, though it hadn't just minutes before when I'd visualized saucy ribs sizzling in the smoky heat of a hickory fire.

    So I initially thought of the stimulation that would provoke the appearance of hunger in a hypothetical future scenario without actually experiencing that sensation in the present. And though I became no more hungry on spotting the rib-joint sign than when I'd first spontaneously imagined these ribs, I did experience an involuntary physical reaction (salivation) when noting the physical availability of that foodstuff.

    *And yes, I generally hold that thoughts occur within brains as neurological events, but for argument's sake we're distinguishing between the cerebral and the somatic.

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    Ok, so I didn't understand. Would you prefer that I delete my post above so it doesn't lead other readers to false understandings of what you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    Ok, so I didn't understand. Would you prefer that I delete my post above so it doesn't lead other readers to false understandings of what you mean?
    As you can see it no longer matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    I don't eat breakfast. I forget to eat lunch a lot. Like I have 1 meal a day most of the time.

    But I'm pretty much a foodie, and I love good food, I think I just don't need it or think about it when I'm concentrated on something else.
    My habits are similar though I don't really think about food except fleetingly, so what I'm talking about isn't some ongoing or thorough-going process, just momentary thoughts that arise and pass.

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    think about becoming hungry? as if it's a choice or something? i don't understand...
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    i think about it if i know i will be hungry later and theres no food around me and i want to plan ahead to have food when it happens. i dont plan to be hungry, i just plan to have food. which i guess is kind of the same, but not really.

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    Yeah, I sort of agree with Kassie on that. I only think about the fact of becoming hungry in the future, if, for some reason, I am worried that there won't be enough food. Like, say, I used up all the money in my checking account and all I have is a big cup full of coins (which happened to me a few months ago) and I have to think about how many dollar mcdoubles I can get from McDonalds (blecccch) before I use up all the coins. But even then, I still didn't really think about hunger in advance. I had some weird faith that said 'nothing matters, it'll be okay.' So I would just randomly do whatever I felt like doing until I started to feel hungry.

    I think that thinking about hunger might be a sign that you already are hungry.

    Or not. It's possible to think about hunger as an abstraction. If physical sensations were sort of an unwelcome nuisance to someone, if physical discomfort was something that one dreaded or disliked (I'm thinking of this in socionics terms), if someone didn't like the hassle of having to pay attention to a physical sensation, experience the sensation, and take action to fix it, then they might look at the future and say 'Hm, when am I going to feel that feeling again?'

    Hunger can be experienced as a sick and unpleasant feeling, too. Like it can sometimes feel like nausea. So it might be something that one would actually dread, in advance.

    My diabetic ex-semi-boyfriend (whatever he was) had to think about food consciously, because he had insulin constantly being injected into his body from a pump. If he didn't eat, his blood sugar level would go dangerously low. But he often didn't feel physically hungry, and he had to eat food 'on purpose' even if he didn't really want to. He had to make a conscious decision to make himself go eat food when it was time. The insulin, and all his other drugs, messed up his internal hunger signals so badly that he couldn't really feel hungry at the moments when his blood sugar was low. So he had to eat deliberately.

    But I'm interpreting the original post. That would be like, planning your day ahead before you do it. So, around 8:00 AM, you might be thinking to yourself, 'Okay, somewhere around 11:00 AM I'm going to start feeling hungry.' That would be thinking of hunger three hours in advance of actually feeling hungry.

    I think this might be a Si versus Ni question. For me, Si says: I get hungry in the immediate moment when I get hungry, and I never bother to think of the physical sensation before it happens. Ni says: Think about things before they happen, a wide variety of things, including the sensation of hunger, and imagine in advance what will happen later on in the day. That's my weakness of Ni - I can't imagine what I'll be doing later on in the day, or three hours from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    When do you usually think about becoming hungry?
    I don't. I just eat knowing I have to nowadays.

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    I just go find food when I feel hungry. What the fuck is think about being hungry?

    lately I never feel hungry anymore
    maybe you can try exerting your body a bit more to stimulate hunger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    What the fuck is think about being hungry?
    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    it is a question about the experience of conjectural meta-hunger.
    So it's about the ideational aspect of alimentary desire removed in time from the moment in which one experiences the actual pangs of a stomach wakening to its emptiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    So it's about the ideational aspect of alimentary desire removed in time from the moment in which one experiences the actual pangs of a stomach wakening to its emptiness.
    I don't see why anybody would think about being hungry when they're not. Or am I not understanding something vital to the question?

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    My body tells me I'm hungry before I start consciously thinking about it.

    Not to say that I don't sometimes eat out of recreation even when I'm not hungry; but then, I'm not thinking about "being hungry," I'm just thinking about enjoying the good food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I don't see why anybody would think about being hungry when they're not.
    This is directed at thoughts concerning the transitional state of becoming hungry at some other time, not being actually hungry in the present moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    I just go find food when I feel hungry. What the fuck is think about being hungry?
    Where do you usually find it, like, you hunt for rats with a pocket knife?

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    A moment ago I just polished off a handful of corn chips after working all afternoon and evening, and as I completed that snack the thought occurred to me that I'm likely to strongly desire a hearty meal in an hour or so. Meta-hunger at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    A moment ago I just polished off a handful of corn chips after working all afternoon and evening, and as I completed that snack the thought occurred to me that I'm likely to strongly desire a hearty meal in an hour or so. Meta-hunger at its finest.
    There you have it kids, Ni = time

    I guess I think about hunger either when I'm already in that state, or when I check the time in relation to when I "should probably" eat, such thoughts being infrequent at best. Your poll responses have me thinking that these kinds of thoughts are habitual and regular, which is something I can't relate to. Ergo, I don't know how to answer aside from "whenever, lol."

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    Me always funnin' on hunger even right after a meal.
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    I've been told-- and it seems to hold up in personal observation-- that our bodies start to feel hungry again about 3 hours after the last time we started eating.

    So, if you eat breakfast at 7:00, you would feel hungry again at 10:00. If you always ate when you were hungry (like I do), then you would be eating at 7 AM, 10 AM, 1 PM, 4 PM, and 7 PM. And, if you stayed up late enough you'd also start feeling hungry again around 10 PM.

    Whoever decided that people should eat only three meals a day was definitely not an Si-Valuer.
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    When I've already eaten and someones getting more food ready, I think about becoming hungry enough to eat it, usually if its way better than what I ate. Chicken wings or pizza mirite.

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    All I ever think about is eating. It's a miracle I'm not overweight considering food is a part of my thought process every waking moment. what I'll eat next, how many calories it has, how potentially fat I'll get, how good it's going to taste, when I can eat again without getting too stuffed. I think I have some sort of addiction. That's why I hate when ppl say they forget to eat...wtf to me that's like forgetting to breathe lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    All I ever think about is eating. It's a miracle I'm not overweight considering food is a part of my thought process every waking moment. what I'll eat next, how many calories it has, how potentially fat I'll get, how good it's going to taste, when I can eat again without getting too stuffed. I think I have some sort of addiction. That's why I hate when ppl say they forget to eat...wtf to me that's like forgetting to breathe lol
    lol I'm about the same. I plan my day around meals. Just sitting down to eat something is, not kidding, probably the best part of my day. In fact, I hardly ever get pissed off at anything, but if I have to skip a meal or I only get enough time to scarf something down and not enjoy it, I get effing livid!

    Sometimes I'll make plans to eat somewhere in a week or two and I honestly start counting down the days and hours. Thoughts of impending sushi, endless chips and salsa, or mongolian bbq are sometimes the only thing that keep me going. It's kind of like spending time with your loved ones, only a foodie version.
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    I don't eat breakfast. I forget to eat lunch a lot. Like I have 1 meal a day most of the time.

    But I'm pretty much a foodie, and I love good food, I think I just don't need it or think about it when I'm concentrated on something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    lol I'm about the same. I plan my day around meals. Just sitting down to eat something is, not kidding, probably the best part of my day. In fact, I hardly ever get pissed off at anything, but if I have to skip a meal or I only get enough time to scarf something down and not enjoy it, I get effing livid!

    Sometimes I'll make plans to eat somewhere in a week or two and I honestly start counting down the days and hours. Thoughts of impending sushi, endless chips and salsa, or mongolian bbq are sometimes the only thing that keep me going. It's kind of like spending time with your loved ones, only a foodie version.

    this sounds so.. nice.
    I always have to scarf down food. I eat super fast and mostly because I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    this sounds so.. nice.
    I always have to scarf down food. I eat super fast and mostly because I have to.
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    sometimes i just want to eat ALL OF THE TIME


    sometimes i don't



    i eat because i know i must

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    You're a guy, you can be fat and still be accepted in life. Go ahead.

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    btw i've been meaning to ask you @munenori2: what the hell is in your avatar? a cat with a.... turkey with foil on it's legs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    btw i've been meaning to ask you @munenori2: what the hell is in your avatar? a cat with a.... turkey with foil on it's legs?
    Yep, that's it. Angry ass cat.
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