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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    I took ~2,5g mushrooms with an IEI friend yesterday, and it was one of the most intense trips I've ever had. I almost felt like we were the same person, as if out thoughts were somehow magically connected.. We literally ended each other's sentences, spoke similar things at the same moment, acted the same way etc.. .
    E.g. in the beginning of the evening we were at a forest rave but neither of us really felt like dancing so we just sat on a rock watching others without speaking for over an hour. I got some weird social paranoia anxiety attack, totally forgot why I had ever liked shooms and decided I should never trip again. Being trapped in a negative thought loop my trip started turning real bad, so I turned to her and asked her to come walk with me. She did the same thing to me at the exact same moment, using exactly the same words. So, we stood up everyone else. While wandering around the forest she started talking about how she, too, had gotten anxious and socially paranoid and thought she shouldn't ever trip again. It was damn weird and I thought to myself that she was really the only person I could be with at that time as she already knew how weird and crazy I was and that she wouldn't judge me for that or take my fuck-ups the wrong way. It took about three seconds for her to say the same thing about me aloud. The trip lasted for god knows how many hours, and was like that pretty much all of the time. We even called ourselves "a shroomy unit".

    It's clear that our information metabolism styles and preferences are very dirrerent (delta vs. beta) and there have been some serious communication breakdowns in the past, but I think being an introverted intuitive feeler and disconnected from the "real" world in a similar way as I am allows her to understand me in a way that would never be possible for an E/S/T type.. Being with her is a lot easier than being with other IEIs, tho, and I think it's due to us having lots of non-socionics related similarities; we both have weird fucked up extinguishment/superego parents, we're both E4 sx doms, we come from upper-middle class families, went to the same school, share a similar taste for music etc..
    that sounds f*cking wonderful. and pretty similar to my relatinship with the EII i know. i think i know what you mean about that connection that no "e/s/t type" could quite establish with you (/me). i don't understand yet the details of the "energy dynamics" or 'energy-flow" socionic-ly speaking... but maybe it has to do with the fact that we do have the Ni+Fi smorgasbord goin', somewhat constantly, and so when our temperaments do sort of 'line up' occasionally, it's pretty damn intense, like with id's, only lacking the kind of annoying closeness imo... more like ime. i get along with some IEIs better than others of course.
    and i think a large part of the reasons that my friend (eii) and i connect/like each other as much as we do, is because likewise, we also share some very important interests. our life goals are pretty similar, too. thing is, i wanna fuck shit up lol. i want insanity. (but i'm also terrified)

    thanks for posting this, agarina (:
    "If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann

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    My mother is EII, and though our relationship is best described as "grating and friction", we can connect on deeper levels and agree on the important issues.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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