Ah, was it Diogenes who said this? I always thought it was Socrates.
they can't like agree and both say it?

hell, i must have said it at least once, though prefer the phrase "I grew up on teh internet".

I agree hk. I would take all of diogenes philosophy, save the need to live in eternal poverty. You can not help a poor man by becoming one of them.
i think the poverty comes with the deal. you go flipping people off at random and see how long you keep your job.