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    Default Tripoli gets serious.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44218013.../#.TlD9HF2-1TA

    Gaddafi was holding back the entire time. Reports suggest that the rebels have miscalculated the depth of his support, and have been cornered inside Tripoli. A strike force was defeated outside the city's gates.

    This is the real Libya: the nation of city-states ruled over, a la ancient Italy, by one supremely prosperous city at the center. 1/3 of the population lives in Tripoli... those who have prospered under the regime will not give up to Benghazi easily. I think Benghazi should give up, because that city is too powerful to destroy without massive foreign intervention. They can hold the rest of Libya if they want, but Tripoli is well out of reach and ideologically removed from the rest of the country. That city would have to be occupied by a decently sized force before its culture could be converted, over a series of years.

    And if Obama does try to send troops there, then I fully support any bids they may make for conscientious objection.

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    That's probably it. All he's got is Tripoli. No place to run, no allies, no nothing. Cornered rat. Let's just hope not to see new Stalingrad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyst Trevor View Post
    That's probably it. All he's got is Tripoli. No place to run, no allies, no nothing. Cornered rat. Let's just hope not to see new Stalingrad.
    Cornered RATS: have you ever played Xenogears, where at the end of the first disk the protagonists infiltrate the religious city-state of Solaris?

    Tripoli is like that.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011..._n_932342.html

    The reports sound just like that scene from Xenogears. We've never seen anything like this. Anything could happen.

    But yeah, definitely a trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    Cornered RATS: have you ever played Xenogears, where at the end of the first disk the protagonists infiltrate the religious city-state of Solaris?
    nah, never played

    hmmm...drastic situations brings about drastic measures. you can't see something like this on your usual day. That was act of desperation, if you ask me.
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    Tripoli has just fallen to the rebels and they've just captured saif al-islam. I hope Pan-Arab nationalists or secularist Pan-Islamic parties gain control of the revolution now; I don't trust radical islamist parties, though, since I associate them with Saudi money, which I associate with the counter-revolution and Western influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Tripoli has just fallen to the rebels and they've just captured saif al-islam. I hope Pan-Arab or secularist Pan-Islamic nationalists gain control of the revolution now; I don't trust radical islamist parties, though, since I associate them with Saudi money, which I associate with the counter-revolution.
    is that how it went down in Xenogears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Tripoli has just fallen to the rebels and they've just captured saif al-islam. I hope Pan-Arab nationalists or secularist Pan-Islamic parties gain control of the revolution now; I don't trust radical islamist parties, though, since I associate them with Saudi money, which I associate with the counter-revolution and Western influence.
    I should probably clarify, that although I'd generally trust secularists more than islamists, some radical Islamist parties ( however much I might loathe them for carrying out sectarian agendas ) are so radical as to be pro-independence and anti-imperialist, and get my support on that basis alone vs the liberals that would sell out their homeland to foreign powers.

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