@siuntal
being a likely sp-primary myself, that is helpful information regarding sp-instinct, but none of it actually explains why Louis CK is Se ego? it's just "explaining away" his Si-seeming traits by using enneagram, which by itself isn't a convincing argument as to his supposed SLE-ness.
not that i expect you to explain why you see him as Se ego if you don't want to, because i'm not that hugely invested in arguing Louis' type. as i said, it's not a super-strong opinion of mine that he is Delta ST. i only gave my impressions because you asked.
please don't exaggerate my comments, because it misrepresents what i said. as i type myself the dual of SLE (specifically the more subdued SLE-Ti) i know i probably wouldn't fare that well with an "omnipotent energizer bunny" (which sounds more like Ej temperament anyway) though i know i appreciate a decisive voice to help spur me into action. also myself and many Betas i know are not drama queens.Looking at Agee's latest thread in Beta quadra titled "Fuck IEIs" it sounds like he is the one who needs empowerment and mobilization lol. Imo those are just vague, faulty stereotypes that are not suitable for typing - SLEs aren't omnipotent energizer bunnies and Beta quadra isn't the drama queen central.
"dramatic flair" = referring to common manifestations of Fe+Se valuing: poking for reactions to drawn you in, testing limits and stirring the pot, purposefully "infecting" others with emotion, having a penchant for trendy eye-catching style, taking action at the opportune moment, "putting on a show", etc.
stereotypes are based on the truth, though of course there is danger in overapplying them. regardless i don't believe what i said about SLE/Beta are "faulty stereotypes" at all - those are known, characteristic traits of that quadra and type. so if there is someone who does not exhibit them to some extent (such as Louis CK, in my view), i may have a hard time typing them as such. though i admit the possibility of being wrong here.


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