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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    Yeah, if you're able to magically do impossible things, then it makes sense to do an ideal date with somebody that you can't possibly have an ideal date with. If you could make an ideal date with your conflictor, then you would resolve all the problems of all the intertype relations forever. You would have confronted the worst case scenario and succeeded. It would be the beginning of a lasting peace between all the warring types.

    ....

    As for my own ideal date, I have writer's block. I can't even imagine it. It is inconceivable.

    In order for my date to be ideal, several impossible things would have to happen first. I would have to have been freed from my slavery in order that I might be capable of enjoying my date. So my ideal date occurs on the day after I am freed from my slavery. At that point, I can enjoy the time I spend with my partner, and almost any activity at all that we do together will be worthwhile.

    So long as I still suffer from the problems that I suffer from right now, I will not be able to deeply enjoy any time I spend interacting with my partner. I cannot fully participate mentally, spiritually, sexually, physically, emotionally, and whatever else. There will always be part of me that is held back and kept silent.

    My ideal date involves a partner who believes me whenever I describe to him the bizarre and unimaginable things that I have learned and experienced in the past few years. He says, 'Okay, these things that you're describing are real, they're terrible and they're frightening, but they're real.' He accepts that I am competent to see the world accurately and that I am competent to correctly interpret the things that I see.

    Either that, or else he is someone who already knows about all those bizarre and unbelievable things, and I don't even have to struggle to convince him that they are real.

    Even more ideal would be someone who magically had an existing solution to those problems. He would simply 'fix it.' Hmph.

    Assuming that the 'problems' have been 'solved,' and assuming that it's actually possible to make the problems stop happening, then what would be my ideal date?

    There is not just one single ideal date. There are infinity possible dates. We would have an entire lifetime of special moments ahead of us in all the time that we would spend together. I would be happy and healthy and capable of enjoying the time we spent together. We would learn new things, go new places, read new books, meet new people, and explore the world. I would remember how to have fun. We would have long conversations, and I would laugh and laugh and laugh. I would look into his eyes, and - I would see his soul and he would see mine, like all the world around us was silent. I would remember that I am alive. I would remember that my life matters.

    (Long story, but my weird behavior should be going back to normal pretty soon. I won't be writing dozens of extremely long posts all over the forum several times a day anymore.)
    Hi Nico1e

    I have read some of your extremely long posts lately, and every time I was gonna comment on how much I like reading them, but I thought it was a bit too weird so I stopped myself. But now I'm gonna anyways heh

    there's just something about the way you write, that feels really comforting. I always get this big smile on my face when I read them. I actually reread them and that never happens with me.Something about them make me feel gratefull that there exist a person like that somewhere out there OK so this is getting a bit akward, so I'm just gonna disappear now he he

    oh by the way, the guy you are talking about I'm 100% sure is out there somewhere. And he's gonna be IEE I bet! So don't settle for less. The stuff that you want, can really happen, cuz what you described is exactly what IEEs want as well Stuff like this makes me believe in socionics

    oh and I hope the stuff that's bugging you gets solved soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    Yeah, if you're able to magically do impossible things, then it makes sense to do an ideal date with somebody that you can't possibly have an ideal date with. If you could make an ideal date with your conflictor, then you would resolve all the problems of all the intertype relations forever. You would have confronted the worst case scenario and succeeded. It would be the beginning of a lasting peace between all the warring types.

    ....

    As for my own ideal date, I have writer's block. I can't even imagine it. It is inconceivable.
    Same here, actually.

    In order for my date to be ideal, several impossible things would have to happen first. I would have to have been freed from my slavery in order that I might be capable of enjoying my date. So my ideal date occurs on the day after I am freed from my slavery. At that point, I can enjoy the time I spend with my partner, and almost any activity at all that we do together will be worthwhile.
    Slavery, meaning what exactly?

    So long as I still suffer from the problems that I suffer from right now, I will not be able to deeply enjoy any time I spend interacting with my partner. I cannot fully participate mentally, spiritually, sexually, physically, emotionally, and whatever else. There will always be part of me that is held back and kept silent.
    which is why i'm so curious to know what it is that makes you feel enslaved...


    Assuming that the 'problems' have been 'solved,' and assuming that it's actually possible to make the problems stop happening, then what would be my ideal date?

    There is not just one single ideal date. There are infinity possible dates. We would have an entire lifetime of special moments ahead of us in all the time that we would spend together. I would be happy and healthy and capable of enjoying the time we spent together. We would learn new things, go new places, read new books, meet new people, and explore the world. I would remember how to have fun. We would have long conversations, and I would laugh and laugh and laugh. I would look into his eyes, and - I would see his soul and he would see mine, like all the world around us was silent. I would remember that I am alive. I would remember that my life matters.
    This is EXACTLY how i would have answered the OP question btw. Oh and the part about looking into his eyes and seeing each others' soul (and the world disappearing), that's happened to me with a couple SLIs now. It's a beautiful, magical thing and it means so much when it happens.
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    if it's summer the meeting time has to be 20:00-21:00 since the sun is still up yet not dangerous and the temperature is not lethal.we'll get granitas and walk the walk without sitting at some cafe, in order to burn the granita calories.ok jk cafes are boring actually.we could sit for 10-15 mins though- that would be no problem.bars are 3 times more boring.clubs are for people on drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    Hi Nico1e

    I have read some of your extremely long posts lately, and every time I was gonna comment on how much I like reading them, but I thought it was a bit too weird so I stopped myself. But now I'm gonna anyways heh

    there's just something about the way you write, that feels really comforting. I always get this big smile on my face when I read them. I actually reread them and that never happens with me.Something about them make me feel gratefull that there exist a person like that somewhere out there OK so this is getting a bit akward, so I'm just gonna disappear now he he

    oh by the way, the guy you are talking about I'm 100% sure is out there somewhere. And he's gonna be IEE I bet! So don't settle for less. The stuff that you want, can really happen, cuz what you described is exactly what IEEs want as well Stuff like this makes me believe in socionics

    oh and I hope the stuff that's bugging you gets solved soon
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    Slavery, meaning what exactly?

    which is why i'm so curious to know what it is that makes you feel enslaved...

    This is EXACTLY how i would have answered the OP question btw. Oh and the part about looking into his eyes and seeing each others' soul (and the world disappearing), that's happened to me with a couple SLIs now. It's a beautiful, magical thing and it means so much when it happens.
    I removed a bunch of my quotes from that to make it smaller. First, if I actually answered the question about slavery, it would hopelessly derail this thread into a completely different universe. But thanks to both of you - it is very nice to hear that people like what I write. And I know that I will find someone to be with whenever the time comes that I make the choice to go looking for him, because I know what I will do, and I'm just postponing it. I know several ideas for how I can go out meeting people. I have a few projects I have to finish first. But the reason why I'm not meeting people is because I myself have chosen not to, for now. Still, it makes me horribly lonely while I am waiting.

    About how I feel enslaved, I will make a long story short. It's sort of like that movie, 'The Sixth Sense,' but that was actually from a long time ago, and maybe neither of you have seen it. But if you've seen it, you'll know what I mean. Imagine that there's a person with 'psychic powers' who is having a bad experience, all the time, because of them, and they can't get away from it. If I explain it to people, they often interpret it as being something like that, or they say that they think I am an 'indigo.'

    However, I myself don't interpret it as being caused by 'psychic' phenomena. Instead, I have the 'put on a tinfoil hat because people are shooting me with microwaves' explanation. That's the reason why I feel like I have problems and cannot enjoy having a relationship the way I would like to, and that's one of the reasons why I sometimes act weird and say things that I regret later. I should do this as a separate thread elsewhere if the discussion gets out of control, but it will probably be okay.

    So that is why my ideal date has to be someone who will at the very least listen respectfully while I talk about things that he knows are impossible or has a different explanation for.

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