All can say is Si. I can see Expat saying how he'd think it would be foolish, or his 'car example', where the LIE would just want a car that works, and the LSE would want a spotless, clean car.
And LSE will be more likely to mold to your ethical program (if he respects you and sees you as a useful model); an ESE will attempt to comply with your wishes or give you what you want. Try to observe how much you actually influence his decision making process. If he's an ESE, it might be something more like "I'm going to be courteous to you and give you space/flexibility because I'm not mean. But ultimately I know the right way to 'ethically' (not morally, but socionics ethics) analyze this situation".Ok, I'll try it when I next have the chance.
Indeed.Um, well, I'm a friendly, feminine woman with a nice figure. I'd guess physical attraction is a relatively significant part. He hasn't really (directly) said what he likes about me, though, apart from one comment on my hair. He does feel that we agree on a lot of things; I'm wondering if that will change at all as we all get to know each other better on this trip.
I think also I'm probably a challenge.
With a more pure intatim (an introverted intratim, perhaps I should say), there would be something like a sense of stagnation, or at least, both waiting for someone to take the lead (but you probably already know that / have read that). I don't entirely know how you'd act with a fellow intratim vs extratim, so I can't say. But the way you describe his interactions with you, and even with the ESE, makes it sound like something more an EJ would be inclined to do rather than necessarily an extraverted intratim.How do you think they'd flow?
I know you sort of touched on this, but, specifically, comment on the differences between "typical EJ energy" and this guy. And how that compares to your ESE friend.
To me, the ESE friend sounds like a classic EJ, ESE-Fe, very obvious EJ energy and extratim focus. I don't see this guy as that.
Right, ok.I haven't ever directly asked them to do that. Or consciously indirectly, either.
OTOH, over a year ago, when we first interacted, he told me he was "holding himself back a lot, more than usual." This a little while after he tried dancing to close to me and I pushed him away. (I probably would have been nicer about it except that same evening I and a friend had been dealing with a creeper...) I remember thinking that was an odd thing to say and wondering what not holding back would look like, how he behaves just normally...
Anyway, I guess that's one time when I "dampened more earthy forms of behavior." He still refers to it occasionally, though he exaggerates my reaction; it seems it wounded him a little (mostly pride, I think).
Makes me feel slightly more extratim than intratim.
OkYeah, I believe he feels he is familiar with what's going to happen on the trip and what we'll find/do.
Do you have a clear picture of what an ESXj-Si looks like compared to an ESXj-Te or -Fe looks like? The difference in subtypes, basically.Less energy when interacting with others. Ejs sometimes seem to me like springs wound up, with an underlying tension or inclination toward action.
I guess that's the biggest uncertainty here, is how you would comprehend this difference, and also what experiences you've been able to see.
Another question is what is his enneagram type?
And/or, how does he act under stress?



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