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    I have a question.

    Let's say you're on your way to the store, any store, and you see an elderly woman in a wheel chair, what happens to you? How do you act or react?

    Do you just keep walking?

    Nothing's wrong with her, she's just on the side walk in her wheel chair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I have a question.

    Let's say you're on your way to the store, any store, and you see an elderly woman in a wheel chair, what happens to you? How do you act or react?

    Do you just keep walking?

    Nothing's wrong with her, she's just on the side walk in her wheel chair.
    What would u do?
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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Hey i got one more question.

    Say you are on a subway and someone panhandles for money and told riders they have a deliberating illness asking for money. Then Say another person came in and instead perform an instrument or sold candy bars, which one would u likely to give money to?

    Above question i always wonder to myself but came up when reading ur post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Hey i got one more question.

    Say you are on a subway and someone panhandles for money and told riders they have a deliberating illness asking for money. Then Say another person came in and instead perform an instrument or sold candy bars, which one would u likely to give money to?

    Above question i always wonder to myself but came up when reading ur post...
    This one is trickier for me. I get that overwhelmed feeling. The thought goes through my mind that I don't like to give money to people in any of those situations, because I wish that I could help them in a more permanent, long-lasting, effective way, instead of just giving them a couple dollars to tide them over till tomorrow, when they will have to ask for help again.

    What am I going to do when I see them sitting in that same place tomorrow? Am I going to give them another donation? Will it become this 'duty?' Will I start to feel awkward and anxious if, for instance, one day I'm in a bad mood, or I'm worried about my own finances, and I feel reluctant to give them their donation that day? Is this going to become a 'tradition' that I have to live up to? Most likely, if that happens, I'll start avoiding that part of the subway, and I'll take a different route.

    This thought blocks me from making lots of donations to people who need help. I also start to think, 'You know, my life's not so great, I wish people would donate money to me, too.'

    About their illness, I will inevitably start imagining things that I wish I could do to actually help them get better, and I will wonder whether my money gifts are actually doing them any good at all. I'd sit there wishing that they would take my advice and my knowledge instead of just taking a small monetary donation from me. I'd feel frustrated, thinking back on an entire lifetime of people not listening to me or taking my advice.

    If the musician played a song that moved me, if it made me want to dance, if it excited me and empowered me and gave me joy, if it broke my heart and made me weep, if it made me feel something, then I would give money to them. I might actually give them a rather large amount of money. I might even give them my contact information and try to spend more time with them or buy more music from them. This depends on how great the song is to me.

    But I'm extremely picky about music, and the pessimist in me says that they'll just be playing some boring, familiar oldies song that I've heard a million times and wish I never had to hear again. That unique song that I'm searching for and longing to hear won't be played by the person sitting in the subway. (Wow, this is horribly cynical.)

    I'd be scared to buy candy bars from a stranger in a subway, hahahah. I'd also wonder how the heck they could afford to buy the candy bars in the first place, and I'd wonder if they were stolen.

    I'd walk past them, and go on to wherever I was going, and I'd try to suppress the memory of the incident in my mind, and I'd think about other things. It would add to the overall burden of my stress and cynicism and frustration. While riding on the subway train I'd fantasize about building an intentional community where I make the rules and I can prevent bad things from happening to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Hey i got one more question.

    Say you are on a subway and someone panhandles for money and told riders they have a deliberating illness asking for money. Then Say another person came in and instead perform an instrument or sold candy bars, which one would u likely to give money to?

    Above question i always wonder to myself but came up when reading ur post...
    If I had money with me, I'd probably give seven cents to the diseased guy, 50 cents to the musician (depending on how good he is), and a dollar or two for a good candy bar.

    But even more importantly:
    A subway?! Why on Earth am I on a subway?! What is a subway? What color is it? Where am I?!

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    If she was just minding her own business I wouldn't give her a second thought. I'm sure someone in a wheelchair wouldn't want some random person's sympathy anyway.

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    I'd probably smile to her and maybe wave if she seemed friendly

    If she talked to me, I'd say things back and everything too people are cool...
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    I don't like to walk to the store. It's a hassle carrying bags back.

    Theoretically if I were to walk to the store and pass an elderly woman in a wheelchair. I would continue walking at an unchanged pace. What obligation do I have to stop? Some sense of duty due to heritage or familial conditioning? I do not stop when I am walking to talk to anyone. I like to keep to myself. I spend a lot of time focusing on other things than social duty whilst walking. Perhaps you'll think this a personal, selfish trait, flaw. I do not see it as so.

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    Nothing, just keep walking. Anyway what's wheel chair colour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    Nothing, just keep walking. Anyway what's wheel chair colour?
    Abbie's response is very much like yours in that it's just an impression and nothing in depth. No assumptions are made, no further thought or evaluation is given on the matter. This is one reason why both of you are Se types, having Ti polr and not really trying to show any analysis. This also shows characteristics of being an Obstinate type.



    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
    You are way too sensitive, self-sacrificing, and too much focused on other people's problems, even when they don't need or want it.
    I just have the tendency to think of things beyond their surface, what they are and what they could be. I'm not short sighted and I tend to analyze things in search for answers, that aren't often there. How we respond to our environment tends to be a way of coping, like a survival mechanism, or a way of dealing with stress. I deal with the stress of being alive by overanalyzing matters in search for answers, while someone else may choose to stick to answers that are already provided for them, because they don't have to do much thinking and analyzing. Because, on one hand it it dogmatic, but on another it allows the person to not stress due to thinking or searching for answers; I think that it's scary to be alive and to have conscious awareness of our existence and because we have this I believe that people have developed certain coping mechanism. I am very much convinced that this is type related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    Nothing, just keep walking. Anyway what's wheel chair colour?
    Abbie's response is very much like yours in that it's just an impression and nothing in depth. No assumptions are made, not further thought or evaluation is given on the matter. This is one reason why both of you are Se types, having Ti polr and not really trying to show any analysis. This also shows characteristics of being an Obstinate type.
    I dont agree and I think that this could be a sign of demonstrative as much as ego, plus not showing any analysis isnt a sign of polr, ESTjs and ISTps I find tend to be rather "obvious" in their statements and observations about reality.


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    DA and Anglas both have said that there is no way you can't be their dual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post

    You are way too sensitive, self-sacrificing, and too much focused on other people's problems, even when they don't need or want it.
    I just have the tendency to think of things beyond their surface, what they are and what they could be. I'm not short sighted and I tend to analyze things in search for answers, that aren't often there. How we respond to our environment tends to be a way of coping, like a survival mechanism, or a way of dealing with stress. I deal with the stress of being alive by overanalyzing matters in search for answers, while someone else may choose to stick to answers that are already provided for them, because they don't have to do much thinking and analyzing. Because, on one hand it it dogmatic, but on another it allows the person to not stress due to thinking or searching for answers; it think that it's scary to be alive and to have conscious awareness of our existence and because we have this I believe that people have developed certain coping mechanism. I am very much convinced that this is type related.
    It is type-related alright, but the question is: is what you are doing really healthy? There is nothing wrong with being helpful, it can be a good quality for which Leading Fi types are known. But if you are starting to fantasize people having problems and being in need of help, when they aren't, that's not very healthy.

    How does the following sound to you:

    To live is to serve; to love is to give. These are axioms for individuals who have the Self-Sacrificing personality style. The way they see it, their needs can wait until others' are well-served. Knowing that they have given of themselves, they feel comfortable and at peace, secure with their place in the scheme of things. At its best and most noble, this is the selfless, magnanimous personality style of which saints and good citizens are made.

    • Generosity. Individuals with the Self-Sacrificing personality style will give you the shirts off their backs if you need them. They do not wait to be asked.
    • Service. Their "prime directive" is to be helpful to others. Out of deference to others, they are noncompetitive and unambitious, comfortable coming second, even last.
    • Consideration. Self-Sacrificing people are always considerate in their dealings with others. They are ethical, honest, and trustworthy.
    • Acceptance. They are nonjudgmental, tolerant of others' foibles, and never harshly reproving. They'll stick with you through thick and thin.
    • Humility. They are neither boastful nor proud, and they're uncomfortable being fussed over. Self-Sacrificing men and women do not like being the center of attention; they are uneasy in the limelight.
    • Endurance. They are long-suffering. They prefer to shoulder their own burdens in life. They have much patience and a high tolerance for discomfort.
    • Artlessness. Self-Sacrificing individuals are rather naive and innocent. They are unaware of the often deep impact they make on other people's lives, and they tend never to suspect deviousness or underhanded motives in the people to whom they give so much of themselves.
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    So now you think I'm SEE just because I ignored some old lady? If I am traveling downtown, I obviously have a destination, and I wouldn't stop to talk to some lady unless she tried to talk to me. Old ladies don't ask for money. They talk about their grandkids.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Old ladies don't ask for money. They talk about their grandkids.
    No they don't:

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post

    I just have the tendency to think of things beyond their surface, what they are and what they could be. I'm not short sighted and I tend to analyze things in search for answers, that aren't often there. How we respond to our environment tends to be a way of coping, like a survival mechanism, or a way of dealing with stress. I deal with the stress of being alive by overanalyzing matters in search for answers, while someone else may choose to stick to answers that are already provided for them, because they don't have to do much thinking and analyzing. Because, on one hand it it dogmatic, but on another it allows the person to not stress due to thinking or searching for answers; it think that it's scary to be alive and to have conscious awareness of our existence and because we have this I believe that people have developed certain coping mechanism. I am very much convinced that this is type related.
    It is type-related alright, but the question is: is what you are doing really healthy? There is nothing wrong with being helpful, it can be a good quality for which Leading Fi types are known. But if you are starting to fantasize people having problems and being in need of help, when they aren't, that's not very healthy.

    How does the following sound to you:

    To live is to serve; to love is to give. These are axioms for individuals who have the Self-Sacrificing personality style. The way they see it, their needs can wait until others' are well-served. Knowing that they have given of themselves, they feel comfortable and at peace, secure with their place in the scheme of things. At its best and most noble, this is the selfless, magnanimous personality style of which saints and good citizens are made.

    • Generosity. Individuals with the Self-Sacrificing personality style will give you the shirts off their backs if you need them. They do not wait to be asked.
    • Service. Their "prime directive" is to be helpful to others. Out of deference to others, they are noncompetitive and unambitious, comfortable coming second, even last.
    • Consideration. Self-Sacrificing people are always considerate in their dealings with others. They are ethical, honest, and trustworthy.
    • Acceptance. They are nonjudgmental, tolerant of others' foibles, and never harshly reproving. They'll stick with you through thick and thin.
    • Humility. They are neither boastful nor proud, and they're uncomfortable being fussed over. Self-Sacrificing men and women do not like being the center of attention; they are uneasy in the limelight.
    • Endurance. They are long-suffering. They prefer to shoulder their own burdens in life. They have much patience and a high tolerance for discomfort.
    • Artlessness. Self-Sacrificing individuals are rather naive and innocent. They are unaware of the often deep impact they make on other people's lives, and they tend never to suspect deviousness or underhanded motives in the people to whom they give so much of themselves.
    I understand what you're saying and I didn't make this thread to boast about me. It was only an attempt to try to show how I have observed different types think about (not necessarily act) in situations like this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    So now you think I'm SEE just because I ignored some old lady? If I am traveling downtown, I obviously have a destination, and I wouldn't stop to talk to some lady unless she tried to talk to me. Old ladies don't ask for money. They talk about their grandkids.

    I don't think you ignored her, necessarily. I think that when you saw her in that wheel chair, it was just an impression of a woman in a wheelchair.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I didn't make this thread to boast about me.
    You just took a psychological disease as a compliment. Therefore, you must have the disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post

    It is type-related alright, but the question is: is what you are doing really healthy? There is nothing wrong with being helpful, it can be a good quality for which Leading Fi types are known. But if you are starting to fantasize people having problems and being in need of help, when they aren't, that's not very healthy.

    How does the following sound to you:

    To live is to serve; to love is to give. These are axioms for individuals who have the Self-Sacrificing personality style. The way they see it, their needs can wait until others' are well-served. Knowing that they have given of themselves, they feel comfortable and at peace, secure with their place in the scheme of things. At its best and most noble, this is the selfless, magnanimous personality style of which saints and good citizens are made.

    • Generosity. Individuals with the Self-Sacrificing personality style will give you the shirts off their backs if you need them. They do not wait to be asked.
    • Service. Their "prime directive" is to be helpful to others. Out of deference to others, they are noncompetitive and unambitious, comfortable coming second, even last.
    • Consideration. Self-Sacrificing people are always considerate in their dealings with others. They are ethical, honest, and trustworthy.
    • Acceptance. They are nonjudgmental, tolerant of others' foibles, and never harshly reproving. They'll stick with you through thick and thin.
    • Humility. They are neither boastful nor proud, and they're uncomfortable being fussed over. Self-Sacrificing men and women do not like being the center of attention; they are uneasy in the limelight.
    • Endurance. They are long-suffering. They prefer to shoulder their own burdens in life. They have much patience and a high tolerance for discomfort.
    • Artlessness. Self-Sacrificing individuals are rather naive and innocent. They are unaware of the often deep impact they make on other people's lives, and they tend never to suspect deviousness or underhanded motives in the people to whom they give so much of themselves.
    I understand what you're saying and I didn't make this thread to boast about me. It was only an attempt to try to show how I have observed different types think about (not necessarily act) in situations like this.
    In that case: attitudes towards helpfulness are somewhat type related, but your own thinking style as described above, and in other posts as well, is not so much a reflection of your type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I have a question.

    Let's say you're on your way to the store, any store, and you see an elderly woman in a wheel chair, what happens to you? How do you act or react?

    Do you just keep walking?

    Nothing's wrong with her, she's just on the side walk in her wheel chair.
    Tell her she smells funny and walk away.

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    Of course you keep walking. Wtf kind of question is this?
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    You already asked me that via pm. Old ladies in wheelchairs aren't uncommon.

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    I might smile, I might say hello, I might just walk right by. Really depends on my mood; sometimes I feel like greeting people and sometimes I don't. It really wouldn't have anything to do with whether or not she was in a wheelchair.

    Though, if I had the time to think, she might remind me of my own grandmother who has been in a wheelchair for the past 15 years, and that might make me a little sad.
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    Of course you keep walking. Wtf kind of question is this?
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    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
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    If I was in the wheelchair I would interpret what you just described as "Staring".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
    That's just weird. I know the area. I know she will have no trouble crossing the street, and I know she's probably the only one on the sidewalk. Why would I concern myself with her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
    Would you do the very same for:

    A) An elderly, un-wheelchaired person?

    and/or

    B) A young person in a wheelchair?
    I think the question would be better addressed as "a young atrractive person without a wheelchair".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The first thing that goes through my mind is a sequence of possible events that might prohibit the person from either making it across the street or down the street so I check to see for objects that prohibit their view. So I look around to see if the person can get across the street and see if their environment is secure for them. I think ahead but at the same time, I'm concerned about them.
    Would you do the very same for:

    A) An elderly, un-wheelchaired person?

    and/or

    B) A young person in a wheelchair?
    Yes, age doesn't matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Of course you keep walking. Wtf kind of question is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Of course you keep walking. Wtf kind of question is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Of course you keep walking. Wtf kind of question is this?
    this was my first reaction as well. haha
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    If it's a person in a wheelchair that is just minding their own business I'd treat them like I would anyone else on the street. Though, I'd give them the right of way because I'm courteous like that...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Do you just keep walking?
    Yup.

    Nothing's wrong with her, she's just on the side walk in her wheel chair.
    You sure she isn't mistyped ? If yes, then I would tell her to walk home and log on 16types.info.

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    Maritsa, I kinda admire how you troll other people's empathy (or lack thereof).

    This question is so silly though, but that's why I genuinely love you. Of course I just keep on walking....asking if they needed help with anything is patronizing and condescending, and is like throwing both their age and their disability in their face.

    On another note, I wish other people would talk to me more in stores but I mean people are usually too guarded for that, society turned too many people into mindless consumers with no social skills. BORING.

    Maritsa, I understand you have a loving heart the size of jupiter, but you shouldn't really start helping other people unless they come to you specifically for help. You know? I love solving my own problems, even though I have the biggest disability of all: Being a homosexual. (lolz)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    On another note, I wish other people would talk to me more in stores but I mean people are usually too guarded for that, society turned too many people into mindless consumers with no social skills. BORING.
    But why don't you take initiative? You will be surprised that quite some will be willing to talk, IMO. Assuming that's not in specific parts of the day, when everyone is in a hurry or tired, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    On another note, I wish other people would talk to me more in stores but I mean people are usually too guarded for that, society turned too many people into mindless consumers with no social skills. BORING.
    But why don't you take initiative? You will be surprised that quite some will be willing to talk, IMO. Assuming that's not in specific parts of the day, when everyone is in a hurry or tired, of course.
    He's Ni-Base. Ni-Base doesn't take initiative...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    But why don't you take initiative? You will be surprised that quite some will be willing to talk, IMO. Assuming that's not in specific parts of the day, when everyone is in a hurry or tired, of course.
    He's Ni-Base. Ni-Base doesn't take initiative...
    Thats not always true as a general rule.
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    Generally introverts don't take much initiative, as a rule of thumb, especially when they are placed in a unknown environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    He's Ni-Base. Ni-Base doesn't take initiative...
    Perhaps, but it happened to me to be to be accosted by IEIs, they're pretty bold in general, but this normally happens when there's a reason already - we work together (even when we're not at the same department), or client-salesman (though the topics of discussing should have been different). Indeed, I don't remember being approached by IEIs just like that, maybe I was. But in general in my view, IEIs get under your skin quickly - not in a bad way - and may become very close. IME, they always take the initiative and it's them who test the waters with different people, usually by throwing them a bait - and insinuation, an indiscreet question, asking for an advice, etc.

    An IEI guy I work with in sales made a lot of friends among the clients, sometimes to such extent that he was spending his time with them outside and someone was required to go out for him and break the party when there was work to be done.
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