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    Here's a cool idea by MisterNi about temperaments that I wanted to share:

    Exxp - Box Expanders
    Ixxp- Box Destroyers
    Exxj - Box Enforcers
    Ixxj - Box Creators

    What do you guys think? I think it's true generally speaking.
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    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jughead View Post
    Of course you ejs and ijs don't like it, but thats how it is. I get shit everyday for not being an Ij or Ej member of society who is a preditable workaholic box stuffer.
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    When you realize there are no limits on dreams, imagination, and creativity, then you realize there is no box at all.

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    Mountain Dew, that's a very typical IP perspective, which neatly fits in what the OP was trying to say.

    Not everybody is creative, imaginary or visionary or even WANTS or desires to be. Not everybody is an artist. Some people are just business-y hardworker types and I guess that's okay. Some people are a mixture. Some people are just pure one way or another. A lot of kinds in this world huh.

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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    What's a "box" supposed to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    What's a "box" supposed to be?
    Some kind of a container, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Mountain Dew, that's a very typical IP perspective, which neatly fits in what the OP was trying to say.

    Not everybody is creative, imaginary or visionary or even WANTS or desires to be. Not everybody is an artist. Some people are just business-y hardworker types and I guess that's okay. Some people are a mixture. Some people are just pure one way or another. A lot of kinds in this world huh.
    no because he's expressing his own (personal and subjective) conceptualization, which is IJ
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    this makes Exxjs sound like douchebags and Ixxjs like the douchebag Elite.Also,box destroyers sounds funny for Ixxps.Well,maybe if they sit on boxes and won't get up,sure.


    "box expanders" sounds negative since i automatically perceive the box as something limiting.Indeed,Ne/Se leadings do not always fathom what exactly they try to expand and its real impact on the COSMOS,but it's all in the glorious game of creation so its ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Mountain Dew, that's a very typical IP perspective, which neatly fits in what the OP was trying to say.

    Not everybody is creative, imaginary or visionary or even WANTS or desires to be. Not everybody is an artist. Some people are just business-y hardworker types and I guess that's okay. Some people are a mixture. Some people are just pure one way or another. A lot of kinds in this world huh.
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Mountain Dew, that's a very typical IP perspective, which neatly fits in what the OP was trying to say.

    Not everybody is creative, imaginary or visionary or even WANTS or desires to be. Not everybody is an artist. Some people are just business-y hardworker types and I guess that's okay. Some people are a mixture. Some people are just pure one way or another. A lot of kinds in this world huh.
    no because he's expressing his own (personal and subjective) conceptualization, which is IJ
    ... or I could have been repeating it, something someone else said, and not my own words. Therefore I'm 'enforcing' the box that there is no box.

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