Male ISFj – Morrissey
Male ISFj – Morrissey
Male ISFj – Travis Bickle
Gaddafi fits the mold of the prototypical business owner "Jack" like a hand in glove. So many restaurants, delis, coffee shops, and other small businesses are owned by Gaddafis.
An ILI-Ni professional pool player is a rarity. I only know of one in real life.
Alphonse Gangitano...LIE-Ni 3w2 so/sp
the female ISFJ is certainly not ESI
Sarah Silverman...ESI-Se 3w4 so/sp
The merger of the 3w4 so/sp section with socionic types has now been completed. One section down, many more to go. Total Unification is underway.
@Kill4Me you have her as ESI-Fi in that link.
Also so I have seen her typed as IEE a lot. I’d love to hear your take on why ESI for Sarah (particularly because I get VI’d sometimes as a Delta NF incorrectly).
Also... can anyone tell me about VI’ing Enneagram types?!?! Either here or you can PM me. Thanks!
I meant ESI-Fi for Silverman.
Omarossa is also ESI-Fi:
Trump on Omarossa:
"When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!"
Alphonse Capone....LIE-Te 8w7 sx/so
Kray Twins...LIE-Te 8w9 sx/so
The Black Hand of Death....LIE-Ni 8w9 sx/so (marlo stanfield)
Leona Helmsley...LIE-Te 8w7 sp/sx
Fictional Counterpart...Bridget Gregory (Last Seduction)
Helmsley best fits with type 8, because I see that her unconscious strategy/drive is dominance and area of fixation is power. This is evidenced by the ruthlessness that came out when she was not shown deference and her overall iron-fisted style. She also demonstrates the core action set for type 8: ruthless expedience, threatening or violent language/behavior, and never backing down from a fight. Go review my primers on each gestalt in the fictional exemplars thread in the enneagram sub-forum. And I see the sub-action set (or wing) is empire-building which points towards an 8w7 rather than 8w9.
"There is definitely a double standard for men and women: When a man loses his temper, he is aggressive; I'm a pushy bitch. A man is confident and authoritative; I'm conceited and power-mad. Men don't want women getting to the top. Period."
LEONA HELMSLEY, Playboy, Nov. 1990
"I wouldn't believe Donald Trump if his tongue was notarized."
LEONA HELMSLEY, Playboy, Nov. 1990
"I've always wanted to be the biggest real estate man to come down the pike."
"I can't wait to read Trump's new book, especially chapter eleven!".
"Leona Helmsley is a truly evil human being. She treated employees worse than any human being I've ever witnessed and I've dealt with some of the toughest human beings alive."
Helmsley has a shrewder mind when it comes to business than Trump (SLE vs. LIE)...the LIE has all the moves. Apparently Her and Trump had a long-running public feud with each other.
The following year, Trump sued the Empire State Building leaseholders, claiming they were in violation of their lease by turning the landmark into a “high-rise slum.” He was referring to mice, slow elevators, dark hallways, and too many small tenants. He was also taking personal aim at Leona Helmsley (a.k.a. the Queen of Mean), who controlled her husband’s real estate portfolio. The two had embarked on a media smear campaign against each other. In 1999, a Judge ruled against Trump, and a few months later an appellate court upheld the ruling.
Alexander Bard ILI - Creative
A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
(Jung on Si)
I came across a copy of Palace Coup: The Inside Story Of Harry And Leona Helmsley. I was mainly interested in the CoOp conversions she made a fortune at. She faced a lot of heat from the city due to her practices as a real estate agent...I never knew that....they were using high pressure tactics to force tenants into purchasing their apartments. That goes to ruthless expedience. Very Nicholas Von Hoogstraten-ish...who I already had typed as LIE-Te...she ended up losing the litigation and had to give the tenants their money back. On a sidenote, the author also comes to pretty much the same conclusions about helmsley, leona as what I wrote below. He concludes in the final chapter that her sole motivation was power and the core action set is amplified through multiple anecdotes. I already knew that, of course....the time it took him to figure out what drove Helmsley I could have figured out the core strategies for 2000 different people....that's the difference between an expert typologer like me and a biographer like him. lmao
Helmsley best fits with type 8, because I see that her unconscious strategy/drive is dominance and area of fixation is power. This is evidenced by the ruthlessness that came out when she was not shown deference and her overall iron-fisted style. She also demonstrates the core action set for type 8: ruthless expedience, threatening or violent language/behavior, and never backing down from a fight.
Last edited by Kill4Me; 06-03-2019 at 03:16 PM.
I agree that an unhealthy 8 lives and breathes the above type of behavior; so then how the fuck are you an 8? lol You don't even respond to "challenges" over the internet, the easiest place for one to stand their ground with a minimal amount of effort, at that. How am I the 6w7 (in your shitty estimation) and not you? The one who postures like a 8 with what looks like scripted talk and fictional caricatures, but never shows and proves, not even in the slightest. The only thing you showcase is a cognitive rigidity unlike anything I've ever seen, but that just says autism spectrum and not "8." You being some "typing expert" is not self evident--you must defend your ideas. When you don't, it just makes both you and your ideas look weak and flaccid, as if built on nothing but delusion, a fanciful imagination and faulty logic--not to mention a both hands covering your delicate pretend pussy, bitch ass MFer of epic proportions. What say you? I expect nothing...as usual. Phobic ass 6. lolHelmsley best fits with type 8, because I see that her unconscious strategy/drive is dominance and area of fixation is power. This is evidenced by the ruthlessness that came out when she was not shown deference and her overall iron-fisted style. She also demonstrates the core action set for type 8: ruthless expedience, threatening or violent language/behavior, and never backing down from a fight.
This ESI need to know LIE ASAP
Male ESI - Adam Jensen from Deus Ex
Villanelle...ESI-Se 3w2 sx/sp
What Fi ego type would ever complain about "feeling nothing" on "most days?" DERP.
This is, in part, is why so many of your typing are wrong and unreliable > you make snap, cursory judgments based solely on Se data points sitting square in front of your dead eyes, and evidently based on the most minimal curiosity, exploration and leg work. No way in hell you completed a single fucking season of Killing Eve and actually came away thinking that Villanelle was an ethical type. lol Because had you done that, you'd have seen that one of her chief "struggles" is attempting to avoid a perpetual, deep abiding internal numbness/emotional detachment by way of newer, viscerally gratuitous sensory experiences. Moreover, almost everything a enneagram 7 does is superficially about avoiding boredom, but at a deeper level, the resulting, suffocating stillness that provides an ample breeding ground for feelings of pain or deprivation. Villanelle's problem isn't concerned with avoiding great destabilizing emotional turmoil but a dearth of emotion.
But keep at it, kid.
2.) Well he did say "Villanelle" and not Jodi Comer, the actress. Besides, he seems to be drawn to all the sociopaths and psychopaths of the world, fictional or otherwise. In this case, he just didn't realize he was accurately staring in the mirror. lol
Not really sure who she is yet, but her eyes seemed familiar. I think LIE (Ni-sub probable).