I think this artist is SEE:
And so are these two:
You might be right.
But he looks boyish, goofy, and logical to me. Like a young puppy. Some LIE’s have that look, although not for long. And she looks Introverted, warm and inviting to me, which is not the way I experience ILI’s or SEE’s at all.
I mean, SEE’s can be inviting and warm but aren’t introverted. ILI’s are introverted but not inviting or immediately warm.
But, I could be wrong. I usually am.
Jarring issues to me: She looks calculating, and that guy’s chin beard is Why, just why? It’s like he is a Delta NF male and isn’t doing it right.
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In my experience, being boyish, goofy, and immature is very consistent with (if not a perfect fit for) SEE males. Both also have a very natural smile that's appropriate for the situation they're in, which is a strong sign of ethics in the ego block.
Because it's a symbol that he's too extroverted for a neck beard.that guy’s chin beard is Why, just why?
he vi’s like an entp, imo. first video definitely seems like he has adequate ni, but i don’t think it’s valued... and he doesn’t use it in conjecture with business logic/te. he seems to hate how money-driven society is, too.
“sacrificing comfort” — lool so ile!I was aiming for was something like "If you have the mental focus and self-discipline to be successful in the dominant society, but you don't like it, here's how you can change your value system to reduce your need for money and status, and gain some benefits of industrial civilization without being in a position of forced obedience." Or: "Society is your enemy, it attacks you by making you need money, and if you are better than the average person at sacrificing comfort for long-term goals, you can work toward a position where you need relatively little money and have more free time."
plus the quote he uses in that post is ur typical alpha values regarding work/play
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Classical mezzo-soprano Elina Garanca. LIE, methinks.
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Rather stereotypical wise old man ILI
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This exemplifies Ej temperament Te+Fe.
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@COVID 007 She looks Ne/Si and probably ethical.
Why? I think result rational extroverts are prone to this sort of verbal diarrhea (ESE and LIE also ESI and LII sees that as positive quality). Just ask @nanashi. She is pioneering around engineering and delivery while not being cheap (another point against process types) I think LIE fits. Original Lady Ada was probably ILE or ILI.
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She is much more focused on the objective potentialities deprived from her projects, rather than her subjective vision in regards to the nature of her company. Of course, LIEs have 4d Ne but they generally don't focus on it when it comes to major life goals.
Her company also has very strong ethical and communal undertones, which I associate more with the Delta Quadra. I generally don't think of gammas as being communally oriented, especially within her age bracket. Bill gates is an exception, but he is much older, and going through another phase in life. People generally act according to the values of their age brackets (Ex. children act like alphas, and teens act like betas, etc), and Limor is more of an emerging adult.
I think IEE with an EJ accent works best for her.
@Surreal I think she shows what democratic communication style really is. Open. Something that alpha and gamma can do very well when pressed.
Her Te is clearly very good handling all that logistics and so on tirelessly. Very Ej.
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Can you please elaborate? I have a hard time seeing democratic/aristocratic styles in this video.
Also, I don't think LIEs are the only type that can do business, and I'm not doubting her abilities as an entrepreneur. Her business sounds extremely unique and profitable, and Limor is very intelligent. Also, I know I'm using heuristics, but she just comes across more as an IEE maniac pixie dream girl rather than a logically rigid and vision-oriented businesswoman.
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Alpha: "be like everyone else, but don't fight for status"
Ne/Si > To achieve all human potentialities through a safe and comfortable environment
Ti/Fe >Making judgements using a collectivistic framework grounded in abstract universal principles
Beta: "be like everyone else, but be better than others"
Ni/Se > To achieve a singular idealistic vision through power and force
Ti/Fe >Making judgements using a collectivistic framework grounded in abstract universal principles
Gamma: "be yourself, but be better than others"
Te/Fi > Making judgements using an individualistic framework, emphasizing the optimization of desirable results for each individual
Ni/Se > To achieve a singular idealistic vision through power and force
Delta: "be yourself, but don't fight for status'
Ne/Si > To achieve all human potentialities through a safe and comfortable environment
Te/Fi > Making judgements using an individualistic framework, emphasizing the optimization of desirable results for each individual
Because of the Se/Ni orientation, I generally think of gammas as taking an individualistic approach in order to acquire status and achieve their dreams. Se/Ni valuers generally see the world as hierarchical like a zero sum game, while Fi/Te valuers focus on individuals instead of the collective. This leads to a worldview that emphasizes achieving personal goals instead of collective ones. Of course, gammas have people that they care about, but it's generally reserved for loved ones, and people close to them.
On the contrary "Gamma types take a longer-term view regarding efficiency and profitability, giving lower priority to the short term. Likewise, they tend to aim at the broader benefits of decisions, rather than only at those affecting themselves, giving them an inclination for self-sacrifice."
@nanashi
Yes, for themselves and their loved ones. Not for society as a whole.
Yeah, this sounds like me.
That sounds E2: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-2 E2 disintegrates to E8, so they are more 8-ish under stress.
Idk, I help ppl, but its always begrudgingly, unless I know the person well and like them. To me ppl who can't help themselves just seem weak and that is annoying.. I just perceive it as wasted time and effort better spent elsewhere.
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not giving a shit about my species is like letting my sources of growth, survival, companionship, education, interesting work, entertainment, raison d'etre, and beauty die off. it's functional, useful, etc, to see them as assets
without their momentum, needs, insights, existence can be pretty boring to me.
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Maybe that's just u when. Not all LIEs are the same.
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