Model G

[Gilly]

Plot yourself on it according to functional strength (inside the circles, please) and repost. I will keep a master graph with everyone on it, and update it every few days.

NOTE: When you repost it, please only repost a small section, preferably just your circle, so we can avoid a massive thread.

In accordance with my new theory, the relationships that will have the most value for each individual will be the ones that are in relatively the same place in each circle, while unfavorable ones will be on the other sides of the circle. So, for example, the ideal dual for any given EJ would be the IJ that is in relatively the same place on the IJ circle.

Here's the cumulative one:

[Catholic Schoolboy]

Yay!

[vague]

[Jimbean]

That is a good way to put, I like it!

I would plot myself on the chart, but Word Perfect really sucks!!! Anyway, I would go close to the ESTp/ENTp line as logical subtype, just inside the ENTp area, roughly on near the midpoint between the center and the outside circle.

[Expat]

Good idea.




EDIT: I think this is worth discussing, and you may be on to something, but perhaps the conclusion is the opposite: I suspect that the most complete dual for the ENTj logical subtype is the ISFj sensory subtype. This is based on observation, I don't have an explanation yet.

[FDG]

You could have use a xy axis so that we wouldn't have needed to post the images.

[Gilly]

I have two theory for subtype dualization.
Using ENTp/ISFp as an example:

When the intuitive component is intensified, need for the support of the sensory type is increased; if we look at S and N on a continuum, when we slide towards N, we get further from S. This is why, for example, the Intuitive-Subtype ENTp is said to place great importance on outward appearance: the needs of the dual seeking function outweigh those of the hidden agenda. In this sense, the intuitive subtype "needs" the sensory subtype more. It is similar in the reverse sense: when the ISFp's sensory component is intensified, it has a greater need for the intuitive component, and, thus, an intuitive subtype.

However, inversly, when the sensory component is weakened, the neurosis of the Role function is increased. A sensory subtype, whos aggressive function is Se, is more likely to hit this role function. Inversly, the intuitive subtype's aggressive Ni is more likely to hit on the ISFp's Role function.

Thus, duality finds itself at an imbalance. There is a "safe" bet in having one producing and one accepting, but opportunities for greater development in having both producing or both accepting.

[Gilly]

Nobody else wants to be on the chart?

[Kristiina]

Nobody else wants to be on the chart?

I want to be on the chart, but I don't know where I belong. And I know people would place me on the ISFj, near the sensory line, but I wouldn't belong. I wish I was so close to the INFj, but I'm not.

[Creepy-pokeball]

Nobody else wants to be on the chart?

Throw me like a dart!

[Gilly]

-_-

Where do you belong, Jadae? You tell us.

[FDG]

-_-

Where do you belong, Jadae? You tell us.

Do a friggin xy axis!

[Creepy-pokeball]

-_-

Where do you belong, Jadae? You tell us.

Between Kristiina and Joy.

[Kristiina]

-_-

Where do you belong, Jadae? You tell us.

Between Kristiina and Joy.

haha.

[Fermi]

place me on (2, 0.5) on the estp one

[Rocky]

put me somewhere under the strong-logical ISTP side. I don't feel like doing an individual graph.

[Creepy-bg]

I pwn the bottom right quadrent!

[Gilly]

Anyone else? There are plenty of forum members who have yet to be plotted...

[Slacker]

I have no idea where i'd belong

[Mariano Rajoy]

[Kristiina]

Place me on the ENTj, Intuitive subtype, about -0.5y and above the "t" in "Intuitive". This should be the most correct.

[emeye]

place me ... way out there

no, further away than that

[Creepy-pokeball]

Why'd you put me on there?

[Kristiina]

place me ... way out there

no, further away than that

You should be placed in the INTp section. :wink: That's not so far away.

I'm quessing near Sycophant's position, on the x=1 line. INTp Intuitive, closer to INFp.

[Megan]

I am not sure about the numbers, but I am probably an ethical subtype, I am not for power or money. I did not grasp the concept of the theory yet. Is it a new version of intertype relationship theory or in what way does it predict compatibility? Does it predict compatibility? And according to your subtype theory, who will match/be compatible to me as ethical subtype or ISFJ in general?

[Park]

I 've decided to add myself although I have doubts about my type and I am very skeptical of my self-perception.

[Gilly]

Why'd you put me on there?

I felt like it.

[Creepy-pokeball]

Why'd you put me on there?

I felt like it.

I figured as much. 10 bucks says I could have joined this forum as an ISFp a long while ago, decided against it, and I'd be on some lame chart like this as in ISFp. But that is okay. I feel like marginalizing you, too.

[Gilly]

Why'd you put me on there?

I felt like it.

I figured as much. 10 bucks says I could have joined this forum as an ISFp a long while ago, decided against it, and I'd be on some lame chart like this as in ISFp. But that is okay. I feel like marginalizing you, too.

Do you have to take it so personally? I'm not trying to marginalize you. Relax.

[Raver]

Gilligan, this idea sounds good in theory, but I'm not sure if it functions in practice. The main reason is because it is already difficult enough to select a type and taking that into consideration how can we figure out the precise area in a visual graph. Also, were not even sure if subtypes exist. Most importantly, in my opinion the graph is just a subjective view of self-reflection. It could work if self-subjectivity or idealization is alleviated and replaced with third parties producing their own subjectivity using the visual graph. Basically, this could work if an adeuqate amount of subjects are used to hypothesize using their perception. If this is done, then consistent and similar results may arise.

[Gilly]

Updated.

Bump.

[Rocky]

Of the INTJs, I'd actually see Mariano/Dio/Hugo/tcaudlllig as the logical subtypes. MysticSonic/Pedro would be more towards the Intuitive end.

[Gilly]

Agreed.

[Gilly]

I'm going to adjust these towards my impressions; if anyone has an issue with their new placement, tell me.