Leadership is not Se per se.Originally Posted by thehotelambush
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Leadership is not Se per se.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Hamlet ?
Last edited by khcs; 05-12-2019 at 12:01 PM.
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I just thought of something you guyyyzzth.
I think the reason Brit Brit had her break down that one time was because she was a Delta being surrounded by Betas. I think her song/music is kind of very Beta like, but her 'true persona' is much more Delta. The pressure to be who she wasn't all those years caused her to crack. She probably had to be nice to a buncha liberal gay men and shit when in real life she's pretty conservative and trailer trash str8 people like, and wants us all to die of AIDS. (haha I'm being extreme/exaggerating for comedic effect but still, there is something to it I think)
I wonder if that one actress, Melissa Joan Hart- who is her friend, never really had that because she was always kind of more open and honest about her conservative background or something whereas with Britney, there was like this duality within her that was more split about it or something. Almost like she felt forced to be ashamed for who she was and how she thought or was more insecure about it or sth. I can see MJH giving like inspiring speeches to her about how its okay to be a conservative or something.
I wonder now if she's gamma? Gamma women often seem really torn between two worlds like that.
I thought I already gave my opinion, but it turns out my last guess (IEE/SEE) was many years ago. I can now say with certainty that this woman is IEE without a doubt, just from photos.
As some already pointed out, her persona, especially in music videos, is that of a power girl. Her music is very much aimed at beta/gamma audiences, but it actaully says nothing about her own type.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Si-dom. SEI
SEE-Fi 2w3 sx/so
2w3s are the sirens of the enneagram...to seduce, to tempt, to flirt, to fascinate
Preternaturally flirtacious equals the Insatiable-Seductive Gestalt of 2w3...sx/so furthers juvenalizes the 2w3's gestalt into its most youthful expression. Ocasio-Cortez is ESE-Si 2w3 sp/so...
see
Alpha SF
Moved her back to Hamlet category.
I wonder about her father's type / their intertype relationship after this conservatorship issue going on.
I always thought she was SEI.
She seems SEI to me. After listening to her recent hearing, I was blown away about how she speaks because how she speaks and uses her words, she sounds exactly like me. My sister is an SEE and she is very firm with her words compared to me. I watched another interview and she has that light Fe-charisma that you can't really see in SEE. They tend to have more of a deadpan charisma.
SEI
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
I’ve always thought Britney was ESI. I’m pretty sure her dad is LSE or SLI.
SEE
Britney Spears seemed like sensing of some sort, SEI maybe.
IEI
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
She is not SEI, that's for sure. It's strange that many people type her that. I'm thinking EIE.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Sensing + Ethical. Alpha > Gamma. SEI > ESE.
Nothing strikes me as Intuitive nor Beta, so to have anyone type her other than Alpha SF is quite strange and certainly off course.
Here are some interesting factual behavioral material to analyse...
After shaving the head.
"I just don't want anybody touching my head. I don't want anyone touching my hair. I'm sick of people touching my hair"
Here is seen S as weak, vulnerable region. A human is not assured to control own physical contacts by normal ways. A human is over touchy to behavior of people related sensations.
Against Si type is also that to harm own look is doubtul for them.
In this theme I'm the only with correct (ENFP) voting too.
SEE I think. Likely extroverted and irrational. I think the natural type for a pop singer is ESE.
She clearly has issues, and being in the limelight from such a young age has done something to her maturing normally. I think it clouds things. She’s def not a normal case. If I had to choose, I’d say SEE over SEI and IEE.
Britney could be SEE or ESE, Dominant subtype. I am critical of the SEI typing because she seems to have strong Se, Fe and she seems extroverted.
I have met a SEI artist though (we worked together a few times years ago). She participated in a singer competition and last thing I heard about her she was working for television. In the competition the judges told her that "problem is that you don't seem like a rock star". I think she won the competition though because she has a great voice.
I typed her irl after spending some time with her, I think she is a SEI-Dominant subtype. My point is that she clearly gives an introverted and irrational vibe. Very different from Britney.
Video starts at 0:34
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Or... It's a symbolic, subconscious rejection of the very thing that made her a admirable character in millions of little girls eyes, her hair and it's style was iconic for the era, while simultaneously demonstrating to herself her own will and ability to control the uncontrollable.After shaving the head.
"I just don't want anybody touching my head. I don't want anyone touching my hair. I'm sick of people touching my hair"
Here is seen S as weak, vulnerable region. A human is not assured to control own physical contacts by normal ways. A human is over touchy to behavior of people related sensations.
Against Si type is also that to harm own look is doubtul for them.
In this theme I'm the only with correct (ENFP) voting too.
Further, as was seen in later years, the head shave might have been a kind of self rejection and demonstration of a low internal self worth, as came from her close loved ones for example, her Dad, record companies, ect.
Or it could have been both of these motivations.
Self-flagellation is a thing.
Don't Buddhists, men and women, also shave their heads in a renunciation of the world?
Nothing about her actions in this case points away from unvalued Sensing, given that it wasn't done as a lifestyle choice 'across time and space's, which denotes a socionics high dimensionality typically, but a one off act, probably of both rebellion, AND, renunciation. Wether motivated by low self worth, and the hero's journey to wholeness, is my theory here.
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