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    Given the choice; ILI.

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    He needs to open his eyes.
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    Broadening the data sample with writing examples and the like would be useful, unless this is meant to be yet another round of uninformed guesses based on somatype and other static visual cues.

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    Same type as Adrian Lamo?
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    i voted for LII.

    Ofcourse with low reliability, it's just a picture.

    but he has the typical mouth of an LII, that gave me a sort of aha feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    That's pretty much what I think. He doesn't really have the kind of bug-eyed intense stare of Ti-base types, but it could just be that he's always sleep deprived. And I can't tell if he's always sarcastic because he's ILI, or just because he's a socially awkward LII who has sarcastic as his default socialising mode.
    Is his humor more darkish, ironic, does it include puns or absurdist elements? Or is it more sarcastic, aimed at pointing out something dumb or illogical happening in environment or another person?

    The relationship between irony and sarcasm is not a very clear cut one, but there are some important distinctions. With sarcasm there is a distinct element though that you can spot that is more common for ILIs to use when they try to make a joke: "Psychology researchers Lee and Katz (1998) have addressed the issue directly. They found that ridicule is an important aspect of sarcasm, but not of verbal irony in general. By this account, sarcasm is a particular kind of personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons that incorporates verbal irony. For example, a woman reports to her friend that rather than going to a medical doctor to treat her cancer, she has decided to see a spiritual healer instead. In response her friend says sarcastically, "Oh, brilliant, what a genius idea, that's really going to cure you." -- This component of "personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons" is much more prevalent in ILI humor and is a mark of what I'd say is true sarcasm, whereas LIIs are much more likely to use irony or darkish or absurdist humor and sometimes even self-depricating humor.

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    Tentatively, Ti. Reminded me of discoejoe somewhat in terms of the eyes, which are Ti oriented. But I can't tell. Your eyes are too obstructed, and all your poses are the same.
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    I can't tell if you're squinting your eyes becuase you're 'tired' or if it's your natural way of holding yourself. MOre pictures.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
    If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.

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    LIIs as well as ILIs are equally capable of being cutting or self-deprecating. Generally speaking, however:

    * LIIs' Ti+Ne provides them a flair for embellishing on motifs, and so they're given to a great deal of contrarian humor, puns, and other wordplay. Since LIIs are Si+Fe-valuing they often do this to enhance joviality and ingratiate themselves with listeners.

    * ILIs' Ni+Te provides them a troubleshooter's eye for inconsistencies, and so they're given to observational humor that highlights paradoxes and absurdities. Since ILIs are Se+Fi-valuing they're given to ribbing others and might actually be pleased if their jibes fly over listeners' heads.

    Regarding insults, both are equally likely to condemn others for perceived stupidity. Again, however, the underlying message differs:

    * As a result of valued Si+Fe, LIIs' insults say, "You are an irremediable moron. I'm taking my ball and going inside. Get off my property!"

    * As a result of valued Se+Fi, ILIs' insults say, "You are an irremediable moron. You should be sterilized and barred from voting or owning property."

    In terms of prophesying doom:

    * The LII is most likely to sound klaxons and bells and give a breathless account of the disaster sure to come, noisily updating their forecasts as conditions change.

    * The ILI is likely to make no more than a sardonic remark or two and wait patiently without interfering to see if their prognostications bear enough fruit to smirklily say, "I told you so."

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    * The ILI is likely to make no more than a sardonic remark or two and wait patiently without interfering to see if their prognostications bear enough fruit to smirklily say, "I told you so."

    Dmitri Orlov
    is a classic example. Some of his ideas are brilliant, others sort of silly, but he's definitely ILI.

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