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    I can't remember most of my musings about astrology like five plus years ago when I was more interested in it, but anyway I do remember relating a lot of the emotional qualities of Cancer, and both my moon and sun are supposedly in Cancer. I generally relate to most Cancer descriptions until they start discussing cooking, mother fixations and banking or stocks. But I tend to see these as superficial things in any description that are just scattered on top of the broader essence of cancer as a concept and so I don't mind just ignoring them or taking things more metaphorically with rationalizations like "it's unwise to get that literal about an astrological sign."

    Things I relate to:
    --The emotional moodiness, which I and others have noticed. Also my moodiness tends to pass noticeably and be rather apparent to others even if I'm not actually aware of how apparent it is. Going through a wide variety of emotions in a comparatively short amount of time. Being very wrapped up in my feelings.
    --The outer coldness around people I don't know very well and apparent outward insensitivity (due to the coldness).
    --The whole hiding in my shell thing and closing off the outside world for long periods of time if I'm feeling wounded.
    --Being secretive.
    --Calculated actions... the things I say and do and when I say and do them and who to if focused on results are carefully arranged so as to best get the result I'm aiming for (or when I don't know exactly what I want, but know the vicinity of it which is more typical, it's aimed for the vicinity)... this aspect of me is highly manipulative (manipulating outcomes and often doing so without anyone noticing)
    --Side-stepping and going around things in subtle ways rather than taking a more barging-through-it-direct approach. This doesn't mean "passive-aggressive" but more relates to strategics
    --Tending to observe far more than actually do anything
    --Tendency to sometimes be snappy and say cutting remarks to others... this is generally provoked by others as I see it and is an attempt to defend myself (lashing out when cornered)... I probably tend to see others as getting on my case more than perhaps they actually are... and sometimes I don't know when I should be trying to defend myself in my fears they'll walk all over me...
    --Being a very emotional person who's often wrapped up in my feelings and inner world sometimes in a completely self-absorbed way where I notice nothing outside of me
    --Having a huge inwardly sentimental focus on devotion and a "soul mate" or something, even though I don't really act on it... Taking romantic relationships and monogamy very seriously and being very hesitant to get into such a relationship because of how bad it will hurt when it ends... I wouldn't be able to just move on and it would take a long time to get over it. Inner tendencies towards jealousy and possessiveness (I could relate this also to Venus in Leo), probably more so than I want to admit. But I would want the person I'm with to have those tendencies as well, preferably even more so without being afraid of them because this would feel more secure.
    --Getting attached
    --Feelings of being protective towards those important to me. (Although I'm also afraid of being a coward.)
    --Finding humor in most situations... Although my worry with my sense of humor is that I don't ever mean for anyone to think I'm "laughing at them" as it's usually more that I find a lot of situations amusing and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
    --Insecurity regarding how others see me, insecurity in relationships (at least at first), doubting
    --Spending a lot of time reflecting over the past and memories
    --the need for safety and security as being more important than say adventure, although there is a sense of adventure which I can attribute to my Sagittarius ascendant, of course.
    --Somewhat to the inner sense of compassion... but this is mixed with how cold I am outside often... Some descriptions I think talk about Cancer as being some sort of inner healer of others and that I don't really relate to and seem to find repulsive (often I'm wary of people who identify themselves as healers because I think they just harass people usually)... I'm really undecided on most of this aspect.
    --being perceived as rather innocent or childlike often
    --(not related to cancer, but astrology in general) Lacking Earth qualities (my chart is just about devoid of planets in Earth signs and there's too much Air left unbalanced by Earth.

    Things I don't relate to:
    --The Cancer maintaining a kitchen where no burner is left unoccupied, constantly cooking wonderful foods with wonderful scents wafting from the oven.
    --The Cancer's quest to make as much money as possible, particularly moving up the ladder in a bank or some other financial institution.
    --The mystical, magical, special, mysterious, super enigmatic moon child always staring at the moon and flowing with its phases hanging out on the beach staring at the sand between his/her toes and saying poetic statements before frolicking away into the ocean to thank god never be heard from again.
    --Ongoing fantasies about being in the womb again (the mother fixation) or of being a Mother to All, possibly eager to have 9-12 children, being nurturing, enjoying the company of children (I'm actually kind of afraid of children for some reason)

    I can't remember anything else off the top of my head. Also it's entirely ignoring the all-important Aspects in one's chart which can turn everything upside down and I never got around to actually carefully looking into all of mine, though I think there were several problems with them that I can get myself to relate to as well (the problem with astrology is I'm sure I can relate to most of it without too much effort even if it wasn't even my chart). I wanted to actually for my own amusement continue looking into my aspects because I was getting the impression that my planets were forming alliances against each other... mainly Jupiter and Saturn were being assholes to Mercury putting an excessive amount of pressure on it with the squares. There was much more to it than this, but I don't remember. I saw it this way because my Mercury is in Gemini but yet all the great things that should go along with this (it's a good position for Mercury) don't really happen and this is largely because although Mercury has a good relationship (either trine or sextile) with Mars, it has very bad relationships with both Jupiter and maybe Saturn (squares) and Jupiter at least was in a very strong position as well (oh I remember, Jupiter according to something or other is technically the "ruler of my chart"). Also my Sun was largely un-aspected and I was beginning to see it as thinking it's "above-it-all" and generally perceiving my Sun as a "bitter bitch" who wants nothing to do with the rest of the planets. Anyway this would somewhat weaken the Sun's influence making it less direct perhaps. I just don't remember the rest of the "drama" of my chart (I saw it as fraught with "unhealthy" interplanetary relationships) I was seeing but I found it incredibly applicable to me (of course). I think my Moon had good relationships with several planets and I relate to the Moon more anyway (I relate more to myself as an emotional being).

    Anyway I don't know what type I'd associate Cancer most with, if any. I probably sort of see it as Fe creative ish. I suppose you could look at the "still waters run deep" side of Cancer and then associate it with Fi. Anyway I probably just don't really want to associate it with anything.
    Last edited by inumbra; 10-07-2010 at 06:18 PM.

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