Factors Behind Common Mistypings

[Suz]

I know some people do confuse themselves with their dual but that's not something that would have happened to me in a hundred million years.

I know, i said it CAN happen (and ime somewhat commonly). Not always though.

[redbaron]

I know, i said it CAN happen (and ime somewhat commonly). Not always though.

yeah. I think it's super interesting how it can happen to some and then to others it would never even be a question.

[Krig the Viking]

I've given up trying to come up with a formula for it, because I realized I was basically trying to logically justify my intuitive conclusions, which made it kind of pointless. So taking the above formula as a basic starting point, and modifying it somewhat to bring it in line with my intuitive perception of the frequency of these mistypings, I've arrived at the following list.

In order from most frequent mistyping to least frequent mistyping:

1. Mirror and Quasi-Identity.
2. Benefit, Kindred, and Look-a-Like.
3. Extinguishment.
4. Activity.
5. Super-Ego.
6. Mirage and Semi-Duality.
7. Supervision.
8. Duality.
9. Conflict.

This is what I'm currently using. I generally regard anything at Super-Ego and below to be a fairly unlikely mistyping, with Conflict being almost impossible for anyone with even a basic understanding of socionics and human nature. The top couple of places I consider understandable mistakes even for highly experienced socionists, especially if they're not intimately familiar with the subject being diagnosed.

The results achieved by this method of analysis are not always (or even often) conclusive; I treat it as slightly less reliable than V.I. and online quizzes, to be used in conjunction with an array of other evidence.

[pianosinger]

In order from most frequent mistyping to least frequent mistyping:

1. Mirror and Quasi-Identity.
2. Benefit, Kindred, and Look-a-Like.
3. Extinguishment.
4. Activity.
5. Super-Ego.
6. Mirage and Semi-Duality.
7. Supervision.
8. Duality.
9. Conflict.

I think this is probably still an oversimplification. Especially with asymmetric relations.

I think I would be much more likely to be mistaken for my benefactor, not so much my beneficiary. Also, I did (in MBTI) seriously consider ISFJ (my supervisee) for my type, but would never have confused myself for an INTJ/j.

I still think semi-duals are more likely to be mistaken for each other than illusionaries. At least, to an outside observer. My SEI sister-in-law and I have a lot of similarities, for instance. We know we're not that terribly alike, but others may not see as clearly. I've even had a couple of people on these forums suggest that I VI'd SEI.

[Krig the Viking]

I think the biggest unaccounted-for factor is subtypes. In my opinion, that's why individual people tend to have their own idiosyncratic common mistypings like, say, Kindred instead of Benefit, or Supervisor instead of Supervisee, as in your example. A C-LII might be more commonly mistyped as ILE than LSI, whereas an N-LII might be more commonly mistyped as LSI. Maybe someday I'll try to untangle that mess and write a more complicated version of this.

Overall, though, I think my list there is pretty accurate when looking at the big picture of common mistypings. Individuals may differ, but there are certain overall trends that tend to remain pretty constant, at least that I've observed. So I wouldn't say it's an oversimplification so much as a useful generalization.

[Trevor]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...SenhseXc#gid=0

TEST YOUR THEORIES!!!

NUMEROUS TYPINGS TO BE DELIGHTED IN!!!

ONLY TODAY IN YOUR TOWN, TOMORROW WE'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!

[Absurd]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...SenhseXc#gid=0

TEST YOUR THEORIES!!!

NUMEROUS TYPINGS TO BE DELIGHTED IN!!!

ONLY TODAY IN YOUR TOWN, TOMORROW WE'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!

Haha, people type the divorced SEE Anglas as IEE, oh my, can't be. Hey Ashton, you've said he is your identical, as well as FDG's.

Goodness gracious and all the emoticons combined!

Wonder when it is woofwoofl's turn. Oh my! I can't think straight, I must be homosexual.

[Leader]

Reasons for mistypings:

A. Stupidity
B. General lacking in the ability to assess a person's overall character
C. All of the above

[Absurd]

Reasons for mistypings:

A. Stupidity
B. General lacking in the ability to assess a person's overall character
C. All of the above

Actually, I do agree.

[EyeSeeCold]

Reasons for mistypings:

A. Stupidity
B. General lacking in the ability to assess a person's overall character
C. All of the above

/thread

[Krig the Viking]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...SenhseXc#gid=0

TEST YOUR THEORIES!!!

NUMEROUS TYPINGS TO BE DELIGHTED IN!!!

ONLY TODAY IN YOUR TOWN, TOMORROW WE'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!

Ooh, handy. Nice work!

[Krig the Viking]

I don't have a whole lot of typings for people here, but I'll post what I have.

[Beautiful sky]

Rosy color shades

[Krig the Viking]

I don't have a whole lot of typings for people here, but I'll post what I have.

There, done. Turns out I have more opinions than I thought.

[FDG]

IMHO, it's mostly due to:

- lack of real-life observational ability, some people are slightly more obsessive (me included) about typing their real-life comrades and acquaintances, others much less so, thus they might not be able to understand the full scope of a given type.
- conflating socionics traits with unrelated personality traits, socionics mostly deals with intertype relations, temperament and reinin dichtomies; OTOH you'll often see people base their typings on stuff like "he dresses well", "he likes football", "he is a loner", bla bla

[Nico1e]

This thread is awesome. I'm bumping it again. In fact I think I'm going to link to it or save it somewhere. I think this thread deserves to be made 'sticky' so that it will always be available at the top of the list as a reference. It is extremely useful to learn this and understand what are the most likely mistypes. This could be cleaned up and organized even more.

I myself like the idea of 'mistypings of least/greatest concern.' What are the consequences of a particular mistype? Is it that big a deal? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

[Raver]

I think mistypings can occur as a result of looking too much at superficial reasons. For instance, that person likes to rest a lot, okay he must be ego. Oh, that person likes to dominate over others a lot, okay he must be ego. I think you need to look deeper than that and look at people's overall character to find out their true type. Some people are incredibly easy to type, it just screams at you, but for others its a lot less obvious and you either don't bother typing them or you risk typing them wrong.

Socionics is just one of those things that you can't really prove for 100% and then you have to rely on group approval to arrive on some kind of accepted belief online. In real life you just have to rely on your own judgement for accuracy, which is highly dependent on your level of competency. This is why anyone can change their type at any moments notice and you'll get half the people agreeing with the change and the other half thinking the person had just a lost a grasp of who they are.

[MisterNi]

Great post krig! I seem to be having a bit of a problem with quasi at the moment and I'll try your method to sort out my dilemma between Ni-ENTj and Ti-ENTp.