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    Creepy-Korpsey

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    It was six men of Indostan
    To learning much inclined,
    Who went to type the Elephant
    (Though all of them were blind),
    That each by observation
    Might satisfy his mind

    The First approached the Elephant,
    And happening to fall
    Against his broad and sturdy side,
    At once began to bawl:
    "God bless me! but the Elephant
    Is very like a wall!"

    The Second, feeling of the tusk,
    Cried, "Ho! what have we here
    So very round and smooth and sharp?
    To me 'tis mighty clear
    This wonder of an Elephant
    Is very like a spear!"

    The Third approached the animal,
    And happening to take
    The squirming trunk within his hands,
    Thus boldly up and spake:
    "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
    Is very like a snake!"

    The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
    And felt about the knee.
    "What most this wondrous beast is like
    Is mighty plain," quoth he;
    " 'Tis clear enough the Elephant
    Is very like a tree!"

    The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
    Said: "E'en the blindest man
    Can tell what this resembles most;
    Deny the fact who can
    This marvel of an Elephant
    Is very like a fan!"

    The Sixth no sooner had begun
    About the beast to grope,
    Than, seizing on the swinging tail
    That fell within his scope,
    "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
    Is very like a rope!"

    And so these men of Indostan
    Disputed loud and long,
    Each in his own opinion
    Exceeding stiff and strong,
    Though each was partly in the right,
    And all were in the wrong!

    Moral:

    So oft in socionic wars,
    The disputants, I ween,
    Rail on in utter ignorance
    Of what each other mean,
    And prate about an Elephant
    Not one of them has seen!


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    No monkeys but the elephant is there. That's really great.

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    wow, I'm fucking impressed.

    Great poet and I like the message it contains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    wow, I'm fucking impressed.

    Great poet and I like the message it contains.
    This is a really good an excellent metaphor- however the poem is John Godfrey Saxe's - with socionics replacing theology.

    http://www.noogenesis.com/pineapple/..._elephant.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpsey View Post
    So oft in socionic wars,
    The disputants, I ween,
    Rail on in utter ignorance
    Of what each other mean,
    And prate about an Elephant
    Not one of them has seen!
    You forgot to mention that critical thinking does not exist.
    Shock intuition, diamond logic.
     

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    Thou est wail onward in utter ignorance, fiends.. Thou ist a non punctual concubine. Thou ist thy mothers pampered son. Thou elephant tusk spear the in thy guts. The great monkey comes from above to rain down bananas onto the peasants living in the doll house. The great monkey craps rain into their open mouths. Peasants.. Fools... The six holy monkeys worship the flame of power. Great monkey flame...

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    LMAO!
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    I fucking love that picture dude

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    I love that parable and how it's brought to life in every thread where attempts are made to type others, especially celebrities and other remote personages who don't provide feedback on the selective perceptions and psycho-social biases paraded by everyone who offers an opinion. And yes, I'm susceptible to this same type of error, though it's something I try to monitor, factor for, and guard against.

    Somavision: Correct, though the story is much older than homeboy's rendition of it.

    Bolt: Incorrect on both counts. I'm quite aware that critical thinking exists. Furthermore, since it's performed by humans its application and execution are inherently limited and imperfect. Since you're given to sensationalism it's only natural to wonder whether your obviously false response was intentionally ironic or whether you dismissed intellectual rigor in earnest and thereby stepped unwittingly into your own shit.

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    the blind men are self-rightous - that's the point.

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    There's a plurality of valid viewpoints, but that's one of them. Bonus credit for finding the ethical angle in what was originally intended as a jab at the psychological mechanics of fallibility.

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