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    I have a question: I don't really feel like I have Si problems. Shouldn't an IEE have trouble w Si?

    Will someone please explain Si dual-seeking in IEE?

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    What i've noticed about myself that might be related to Si-DS is that I'm not great about being in tune with my body. I have a tendency to get very distracted by life and thoughts and things going on around me, and (1) i end up neglecting myself to an extent, until things have gotten out of hand enough for me to notice it (a little too late) and then try to recuperate and fix things. (2) I can be quite clumsy, trip, sometimes fall, bump into people/things, not too coordinated in my movements.

    Another thing that I think is related to Si-DS in myself is that if I feel out of sorts, I have trouble pinpointing why. I might have some hunger pangs, but it can turn out that i'm just in need of some sleep. I might feel fatigued, but it could end up that i just needed to go to the bathroom.

    I guess the major thing that distinguishes Si-DS from Si-POLR though is that Si-dual seekers try and figure out what's going on, and welcome help with it.

    I was chatting with Golden (EIE and thus Si-POLR) the other day, and we sort of uncovered a major difference between the two of us that could represent this distinction. For example, both of us have issues with tight muscles all over our bodies and being exhausted all the time. Me, I massage and yoga to help with that, to help me relax and ease my muscle tension, yoga to stretch my muscles and feel peaceful. Golden hates massage, she says it makes her feel even worse, and it doesn't help her relax at all, on the contrary it makes her have a feeling of dread. Golden does yoga for the spiritual effect where she can attempt reaching an altered state of consciousness and move dynamically, and transform into the animal the pose is named after; stretching and relaxation couldn't be further from her mind. In fact during shivasana (one of my favorite poses, where you just lay flat on your back and relax completely at the end of the session) Golden also feels that feeling of dread. Ashton (LIE and thus Si-POLR) confirmed this feeling as well.
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    I think the biggest place I demonstrate Si dual seeking is in my desire to relax and my ability to lessen anxiety and relax on my own. People with leading Si have this lovely pace to their lives and I just love to step back into that pace. When I get upset about something or nervous, my husband tells me to relax, take care of myself, lie down and rest, and he goes out and gets me my favorite soup from this restaurant near us for dinner. is LVE.
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    Copypaste from the other thread:

    Nope? The definition of the Suggestive function is it's just something you don't necessarily live because it's a complement to your Base function, which dictates your typical mental mode (pianosinger described Base Ne as having a constant awareness of potential and novelty that she feels compelled to follow around).

    IOW, living through your Base function means you're fairly oblivious to things associated with your Suggestive. (e.g. Si bases who don't think about changing anything about their routines or lives until several years after any sane, normal human being would have gotten frustrated; if at all, similarly, Ne bases who don't know how to just slow their tempo down and enjoy whatever it is they're doing.)

    I would imagine Ni egos would have more Si "problems" than Ne egos, just due to the competitive (and thus suppressed) relationship between super-ego and ego.

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    Some of it could depend on who raised you. If you had an Si-Ego parent, you'd be much more familiar with it than someone like me who was raised by two Gammas. I just didn't even really know what I was missing in my life until I married my husband and started hanging out with my in-laws.

    Now, I am quite addicted

    My husband, who is Si-Role, also grew up appreciating and "valuing" Si, thanks to his SLI dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Some of it could depend on who raised you. If you had an Si-Ego parent, you'd be much more familiar with it than someone like me who was raised by two Gammas. I just didn't even really know what I was missing in my life until I married my husband and started hanging out with my in-laws.

    Now, I am quite addicted

    My husband, who is Si-Role, also grew up appreciating and "valuing" Si, thanks to his SLI dad.
    Yeah - my parents are EIE and LIE, my husband is SLI, my inlaws are SEI and ESE. It was a pretty dramatic difference.
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    Default IEEs - Describe Si suggestive, and how do you take care of your Si needs?

    If you don't have someone helping you in your suggestive function, how do you find contentment with regard to introverted sensing?
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    I can take care of most of it myself, although body signals like hunger and thirst can be pretty grating when I have to be outside of the house for an extended period of time. There are also times where I feel anxious/out-of-sorts and just wish I didn't have a body, although that sounds dramatic.

    Otherwise, hygiene, getting dressed, cleaning up after myself, responding to/being aware of body signals - none of that seems particularly difficult.
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    It's not bad to have others install or repair pipes if they break, cook, and do all other kinds of household work for you. Maybe even take care of some paperwork, keep track of your invoices, write everything down in blotters. Oh ooops, I don't mind that at all, either, just that I'm not turned on by someone who does all that.

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    I may have mentioned this in a different thread in the past, but I think my addiction to massage may be a manifestation of Si-dual seeking. Also i struggle with practicality and tend to do things in a more complicated way than they need to be done -- that may be a combo of an Si + Te deficiency. Unlike Suedehead, I do struggle with taking care of myself. I live by myself, and am extremely independent and also dont want to burden my friends with asked favors, unless I have no other choice. So I do everything for myself, but that means a lot doesn't get done right away. I have learned over time to split up tasks, and do a small portion of the tasks from day to day. Otherwise it all gets too overwhelming. I would totally fall in love with someone who helped me out, absolutely. Or at least someone who showed me a quick and simple way to do stuff.

    Also what ends up happening is that i'm so busy trying to provide all this stuff for myself that I'm not really getting a chance to just relax and enjoy fun stuff. I take that back, often i just drop everything and do some fun relaxing stuff. But that may mean a lot of other things dont get done. I find that I have a harder time with implementing my dominant and creative functions when I am sleep-deprived, overwhelmed with these to-do lists, and am facing 1000 deadlines.
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