Adolf ******

[dreamer]

Some say INFP but that's hard to believe.

[Jonathan]

Most typology sources say ENFj, even though that may not be any easier to be believe.

[Dioklecian]

I read ENTJ somewhere.

[Kristiina]

Is that what Se-hidden agenda is all about? Ruling and dominating, killing and conquering? Because that's an important part of his life and he was typed both ENFj and ENTj.

[Jimbean]

If it means anything at all,

1.) We (the forum) have tried this before

2.) My input: Sergei Gannin said something along the lines of ****** creating his own symbols (hint hint = or ). He also lacked internal empathy ( ?, ? Lack of ? or )

3.) About the hidden agenda thing, how can you distinguish between obsessive compulsive and narcissistic when it comes to world domination?

[CuriousSoul]

[img]http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/nazi/adolf-******/******_goofy.jpg[/img]

When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
Adolf ******

A considerable number of types have been proposed for ******.
I have retired from the discussion.

[FDG]

A clear-cut ENFj. No clearest ENFj around.

[FDG]

Have you read Speer's autobiography?

[Eidos]

A definite ENFj

[iNTp]

You guys just guessing or you have proof?

[Eidos]

You guys just guessing or you have proof?

My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of ****** by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.

[Expat]

You guys just guessing or you have proof?

There is no "proof" of someone's Socionics type, much less of a historical figure. However, arguments in favor of a typing can be made.

[iNTp]

You guys just guessing or you have proof?

My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of ****** by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.

You mean this? http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/******/

****** is most likely an iNTj. He got the perfect race idea from iNTp coon and organized, planned and implemented it to "dominate" the world and keep his race pure.

[Expat]

@iNTp

Please spend some time reading old threads, in order to understand what Socionics is all about, rather than pretend you know everything already just after arriving here.

Again, have fun learning about Socionics, but please do not assume you know it just because you know something of MBTI.

[CuriousSoul]

Have you read Speer's autobiography?

I have. He was a logical type, most likely introverted... Beyond that I am not actually sure what his type was. I also try to abstain from the intertype relations. World is too complex and socionics too messy for that theory.

But nevertheless, listen to his interview on the BBC web archive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audioin.../speera1.shtml


Besides he lied through his teeth in the Nuremberg trials - and got away with it. ISTJs cannot lie that well. And, yes, generally you control your second function better than your first. The second function is what you can do. The first function is what you are.

[Expat]

ISTJs cannot lie that well.

That is an statement I fully disagree with.

[FDG]

Lol, Speer is the most ISTj ever. If you deny it, case closed

[CuriousSoul]

Lol, Speer is the most ISTj ever. If you deny it, case closed

Fine then.
We shall have to wait for some second opinions.

EDIT
You could be right of course. :wink:
Speer is not the main point.

[Expat]

Well for what it's worth, I seem to recall that Speer said something like, ****** had no real friends, but if he did have a friend, it was him, Speer.

So assuming that normal socionics dynamics also worked with ******, then Speer should have been of ******'s quadra, or something like semi-dual or illusion.

Something interesting about ****** as ENFj -- Eva Braun seemed to have been ISFp. So ****** had his supervisor as mistress (and wife).

[Expat]

And ****** did not really care very deeply for her, she was probably partly maintained exactly to ward off rumors of homosexuality.

Such rumors were already going on at the time? I really don't know.

[Angel von Himmel]

You guys just guessing or you have proof?

My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of ****** by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.

You mean this? http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/******/

****** is most likely an iNTj. He got the perfect race idea from iNTp coon and organized, planned and implemented it to "dominate" the world and keep his race pure.

Actually, the 'perfect race' idea developed from numerous sources since the French revolution as a result of a way to control the population. People were getting ideas that the Government was not happy with, and deportation was a way to deal with it and later actual Genecide towards those who had no other place to go.

[iNTp]

I claim ******. he is socionic eNTp and MBIT iNTp.

[CuriousSoul]

It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
Makes perfect sense actually.

[CuriousSoul]

Such rumors were already going on at the time? I really don't know.

Well, certainly you would have been sent to a concentration camp for spreading such rumors.
I do not think ****** was gay, he would not have been half as crazy had that been the case. But in a sense for a man in his position it was/is easier to have a mistress than not to have one.

[Dioklecian]

Eva Braun seemed to have been ISFp.

I will agree with this, I first thought she was ESFJ.

[Creepy-aurora_faerie]

[img]http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/nazi/adolf-******/******_goofy.jpg[/img]

When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
Adolf ******

You're crazy he's obvsiouly ENFj, I'm not even good at typing and I know this.

[Creepy-aurora_faerie]

I claim ******. he is socionic eNTp and MBIT iNTp.

NO WTF


Grrr...I just thought of this.


Supposivly he was constantly being medicated for things he didn't really have. And there is a rumor he was injected with an amphetamine type drug everyday for a long time. He was a hypocondriac, among many other things.

[FDG]

It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
Makes perfect sense actually.

Please, please please stop spreading false informations.

[Creepy-aurora_faerie]

It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
Makes perfect sense actually.

Please, please please stop spreading false informations.

<3333

[jewels]

ENTp for ******. He was charming, but cold.

[Expat]

I do not think ****** was gay, he would not have been half as crazy had that been the case. But in a sense for a man in his position it was/is easier to have a mistress than not to have one.

Well, the problem with that explanation is that only his inner circle was even aware of Eva Braun's existence; she wasn't a public figure, so any concerns about being gay among the general public - if he had any - would not be solved by that.

Since he had also had his odd relationship with his niece Geli, I find it more likely that Eva Braun did fulfill an emotional need of some sort; now as to why it should have been a supervisor, no idea. But from what I have observed of ISFp-ENFj interactions at work, with the ENFj as boss, it's not necessarily obviously bad.

[Creepy-aurora_faerie]

this is my last time looking at this thread i cant stand all the different opinions on ******s type especially since im sure im right. some sound so outlandish as well.


*goes crazy*

[Dioklecian]

****** seems to me INFJ* or ENFJ

*credits CuriousSoul

[Dioklecian]

God Bless Aurora, I think she was right.

[Dioklecian]

What about INFP for ******?

I think I am right with this one!

[CuriousSoul]

Hmm, you do change your mind a lot.
I think I am done with ******.
It is not possible to know much for sure in socionics anyway.

[Dioklecian]

I decided to watch his videos, and they seem INFP, a very distorted version thereoff.

However I should thank you endlessly for making it clear that ****** was not ENTJ.

What type do you think is Europe?

[CuriousSoul]

What type do you think is Europe?

Do you mean the continent?
Can it be typed?
Alpha NT probably.

[Dioklecian]

Yes the continent, they say that the United States are ENTJ. I was wondering about Europe.

Alpha NT is possible, why would you say that? What about Gamma?

[CuriousSoul]

Yes the continent, they say that the United States are ENTJ. I was wondering about Europe.

Alpha NT is possible, why would you say that? What about Gamma?

I thought the spirit of open discussion and scientific discovery could fit Alpha better. But what would it actually mean to say that a continent could have a type? How would it manifest?