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    lol I think Debbie Downer is awesome. The people in the skits she owns are usually preppies who are disconnected from people's loser pain. They deserved to be brought down that many notches imo lol.

    Hope is emo is also a character I like and relate with a lot.

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    Debbie Downer's commentary centers on ethical and humanistic concerns. She perches in the middle of the group and joins the others in clapping without hesitation or apparent irony at the unveiling of the birthday cake. As she speaks she deflates like a balloon for dramatic emphasis, punctuating her pessimistic statements with grotesque mugging. This is all Fe-valuing behavior.

    If she were an ILI her complaints would largely be couched in the dispassionate language of ontology, with her personal opinions taking a back seat to, ostensibly, describing events and conditions as they are. She would probably be slouched in a chair on the edge of the group (and possibly even leafing through the host's books or magazines), observing the goings-on at a remove so as to avoid being swept up in the others' irrational exuberance. Without genuinely heartfelt admiration for the birthday boy or a spontaneous desire to act the fool, she would hesitate briefly, taking in the strange spectacle of people clapping merely because others are doing so, before deciding for herself whether to play along or not. Finally, her speech would retain an even tone, and she'd impress her meaning on listeners with a wry smirk or ironic glance.

    Debbie amuses you two not because she's a spoilsport ILI but because she's a depressed IEI. Since she speaks on your wavelength you're ideally equipped to find the comedic absurdity in her pathetic displays --- they allow you to laugh at the ever-so-familiar negative traits you recognize within yourselves.
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    From what I've seen, the Saturday Night Live cast is predominantly Alpha. (In the past and now.)

    The character of Debbie Downer is played by an Alpha. It makes sense to me that she'd be impersonating a Gamma INTp.

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    Debbie amuses you two not because she's a spoilsport ILI but because she's a depressed IEI.
    That's a convincing arguement, trevor. It just might be true...

    Debbie Downer's commentary centers on ethical and humanistic concerns.
    Yeah. If she were an intp, she wouldn't care so much about that. I mean her main skit had something to do with cats having cancer, didn't it? intps like Aiss for example, aren't so outwardly humanitarian at all. In fact, they are waaaaay more sheepish about being personally invested in the sadness of the world. Not that they are cruel or anything, it's just different.

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    From what I've seen, the Saturday Night Live cast is predominantly Alpha. (In the past and now.)

    The character of Debbie Downer is played by an Alpha. It makes sense to me that she'd be impersonating a Gamma INTp.
    I agree Saturday Night Live as a whole is alpha, but Debbie Downer might be a Beta that Alphas are making fun of. In fact, teasing in kiddie-corner quadras makes better sense than making fun of people who you conflict with. It might be too repulsive to even joke around with. And it's not like they are being too harsh with downer anyway. It might just be alphas poking fun at betas. If it was a confliction thing, they would have debbie downer be like physically hurt in the skits or something?

    lolol @ Tina Fey and Vero being twins.

    And btw, the actress playing the character is completely different than the character itself. It's very possible Debbie Downer is Beta INFp, and the actress is an ENTp. (or whatever alpha she is)

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    The actress looks like Jon Stewart which both look like an ESE friend of mine.

    Regarding her being ILI...don't generalize the monotony and depressing nature. She's just stating observations that semi-relate to the topic at hand. She's not getting metaphysical or argumentative or nothing that is stereotypical of ILIs in their Ego pursuits.
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