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    I could be wrong but I'm thinking they're both SEI. Dude Si-SEI and chick Fe-SEI. Cashier seems LSE. The whole construction feels more delta tinged to me.

    -- ILE, the Parade Rainer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <-- Rain
    Parade <-- Parade

    Arctures: delta just produces boring people
    Arctures: but that's how we like it

    vero: who needs a real person
    vero: That's why I date an SLI

    dolphin: someone tell gulanzon adjusting shower water to the right temperature is not si

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    Quote Originally Posted by shindaiwa21 View Post
    I could be wrong but I'm thinking they're both SEI. Dude Si-SEI and chick Fe-SEI. Cashier seems LSE. The whole construction feels more delta tinged to me.

    -- ILE, the Parade Rainer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <-- Rain
    Parade <-- Parade
    ILIs are the true parade rainers though. /rains on your parade



    Either way, I wouldn't mind meeting a woman who read JLA. Le sigh.

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    It's clearly intended to be an ILE guy and an SEI girl in my opinion. Notice how he is the one who initiates contact (extraversion), but he's not very good at it (weak ethics). The comic books represent their shared valued Ne, which they both feel the need to hide in America's image-conscious Se-valuing culture.
    Quaero Veritas.

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    if they are supposedly Fe-valuers, why would their emotions have to be explained in the thought bubbles, instead of just letting clearly expressed emotions speak for themselves?

    this video focuses more on Fi than Fe, it's about subdued feelings of resonance, attraction and shared feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    if they are supposedly Fe-valuers, why would their emotions have to be explained in the thought bubbles, instead of just letting clearly expressed emotions speak for themselves?

    this video focuses more on Fi than Fe, it's about subdued feelings of resonance, attraction and shared feelings.
    The thought bubbles use emoticons, which by their nature express different kinds of emotional states. Fe is the element which deals with our changing states of emotion (internal dynamics of objects). Fi deals with sentiments and personal opinions, which cannot be expressed in emoticon form (certainly not the emoticons used in this film). This is because Fi deals with the relationships between people (internal statics of fields), not people's fluctuating emotional states.

    In other words, just because it's not expressed externally, doesn't mean it's not Fe.

    Obviously, elements of both kinds of Ethics are present in the video -- it depicts the forming of a new relationship, after all, and how the girl's Fi sentiments toward the guy change from "I don't care for you" to "I like you". But in my opinion the thought bubbles clearly depict the Fe emotional states of an ILE and an SEI.
    Quaero Veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    My friends listen to my suggestions to, but this doesn't mean they follow my likes/dislikes or that I verbalize them directly.

    I might say "xxx is pretty good." This is not a personal statement. This is not a "I like". Plenty of things are pretty good, but they don't necessarily create any sort of personal attachment and I'm much more willing to comment on competence and other qualities then a personal sentiment.
    I don't see what's all that different about recognizing "competence and other qualities" from sentiment. Are people with sentiment more simple or mysterious in their choice making?

    Personally, I could throw and out the window and say it's that would provoke me to express "sentiment" about comic books. It's like a fun sandbox for the "big picture". And being valuing, I "like" the big picture. I don't choose to like it. I just do.

    And by big picture, I mean it's a huge medium that presents a lot of speculative or timeless ideas in a fun way. Lets use the X-Men, for example. I don't know if Stan Lee meant it, but it seems to be loosely based on civil rights issues (where Professor X is a kind of MLK Jr., character in his promotion of mutant/human cooperation. And Magneto more along the lines of Malcolm X, who thought it better to extinguish humans and only desired that the "superior" mutants become the future face of evolution).

    I "like" the subject of civil rights and race integration not necessarily because of mere sentiment, but because I'm not a smallminded fool. I think that we are essentially an explorer race. But we aren't going to reach the true potential of that if we fight about ethnicity or culture or something along those lines. We'll never collectively evolve that way. It might even be possible that a species like ours is very rare. Taking that into account, it could be one of the most ultimate moral imperatives to evolve and cooperate. There's a huge universe out there. Who else is going to explore it? We don't know, but it should be on our minds more to ultimately work towards that ourselves.

    A comic book like the X-men is just a small speck of thought in our day and age, that's pointing to these bigger ideals, explicitly stated or not. Professor X is the shit. I "like" him. It's not just mere sentiment. I'm not just fond of his baldness and wheelchair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straytk View Post
    I don't see what's all that different about recognizing "competence and other qualities" from sentiment. Are people with sentiment more simple or mysterious in their choice making?

    Personally, I could throw and out the window and say it's that would provoke me to express "sentiment" about comic books. It's like a fun sandbox for the "big picture". And being valuing, I "like" the big picture. I don't choose to like it. I just do.

    And by big picture, I mean it's a huge medium that presents a lot of speculative or timeless ideas in a fun way. Lets use the X-Men, for example. I don't know if Stan Lee meant it, but it seems to be loosely based on civil rights issues (where Professor X is a kind of MLK Jr., character in his promotion of mutant/human cooperation. And Magneto more along the lines of Malcolm X, who thought it better to extinguish humans and only desired that the "superior" mutants become the future face of evolution).

    I "like" the subject of civil rights and race integration not necessarily because of mere sentiment, but because I'm not a smallminded fool. I think that we are essentially an explorer race. But we aren't going to reach the true potential of that if we fight about ethnicity or culture or something along those lines. We'll never collectively evolve that way. It might even be possible that a species like ours is very rare. Taking that into account, it could be one of the most ultimate moral imperatives to evolve and cooperate. There's a huge universe out there. Who else is going to explore it? We don't know, but it should be on our minds more to ultimately work towards that ourselves.

    A comic book like the X-men is just a small speck of thought in our day and age, that's pointing to these bigger ideals, explicitly stated or not. Professor X is the shit. I "like" him. It's not just mere sentiment. I'm not just fond of his baldness and wheelchair.
    I don't really think evaluating qualities about someone or properties of someone means I like them. I think Paul McCartney is a talented and great musician, but I don't particularly like him and from his bandmate George's appraisal of Paul, it seems he was kinda of a asshole.

    As far as having personal sentiment of any sort, this is the domain of . You may like some information because it's valuing but it doesn't mean the information you're conveying when you say "I like something" is .

    Saying "I like " isn't a statement.

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    You're too serious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by straytk View Post
    You're too serious.
    What, you're not having fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    What, you're not having fun?
    That big grin warms my heart.

    But yeah, it's not fun. I'm going to go play my guitar, I think, and "like" some notes over others. Stop the presses.

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