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    Default I want to be Alpha or Beta!

    Hello everybody, this is probably just another boring “what am I? Me me me!” post, and I’m sorry for that! But, after a few days of lurking through all of the different Socionics(and some Myers-Briggs, but they all seem very…basic) forums, you lot are my favorites, so please keep that in mind and bear with me.


    When I first completed the MBTI in high school, my result was ENTP. Since then though, I’ve become more--in touch?--with my feelings, you could say. For the longest time after that, I had considered myself an ENFP, but I disagree with that typing these days. There’s a certain “edge” or “bite” to me, that I don’t think many ENFps have.

    I’m just getting acquainted with the different quadras, but the more I read about Delta, the more I’m reminded of a particular group of friends I would hang around years ago. They all loved me at first, and we shared some common interests(art, music, pretentious independent films), but after a while, I think I was too much for them, which is strange, because no other group of people have ever made me feel that way before! They purposely made me the center of attention all of the time(which, I‘m not used to being), and would keep me around for laughs and a merry old time, but then they’d get really weird. They’d just get this look in their eyes, like I had always crossed some imaginary line of good vs. evil. One of them was an INFj and one was an ISFj, and for a long time they were my two best friends. They just were always so sensitive about everything! They’d always guilt me for the little mistakes that I naturally couldn’t help but make, like, forgetting to come to their show, or not hanging out with them because I was lazy. One time I didn’t hang out with the ISFj on her birthday because I reeeeaallly hadn’t been feeling well and I thought she’d never talk to me again. I quit hanging out with her altogether because her emotional neediness sucked the life out of me. I can’t tolerate needy friends. I still talk to the INFj, but I secretly-think he secretly-thinks I’m “evil” with a touch of good in me. Hahaha. Deltas are so "soft" and silly. I think I'm a little "hard"er and silly.

    Right now, my current “best friend” is an INFp, he’s amaaaazing. He’s quirky, accepting, has good taste, and the conversation NEVER goes stale. And he has never guilted me about anything, ever, which makes me want to treat him like a better friend. I’m also good friends with an ENFp right now, and we can have the best deep conversations(with lots of huge, strange, metaphors), that is, when she’s not talking about the boring real world details of her life, like her job. She’s also prone to like inspirational quotes, that make me cringe, and compare her “feelings” with romantic comedies, which also makes me cringe. I just can’t figure out if I hate it because it’s overly sentimental, or because it’s just bad taste? Hmmm.

    Anyways.
    Sometimes I think I could be ENFj, because they are a little bit "harder" and because I do have a romantic streak in me, it’s just got to be a VERY weird romance or person to spark my interests. Once they’ve sparked it though, I am prone to pine and daydream about them alllll of the time. I’m very playful with the object of my affections, and for as weird or quirky as I am normally, I’m it times ten when I’m around the person. I want love(and I want everything else in life) that transcends this boring world(what a boring physical plane of existence), and makes me feel like a magical world really exists. If a person doesn’t make me feel that way, I have very little romantic interest in them. Unless they’re really hott.

    I've also been looking into ENTp again, I just don't know if I like magical things too much to be an NT? All of the Ne/Ti people I've known, are obsessed with robots and aliens. I like aliens, but sometimes all of the Science part of Science Fiction can bore me. I do, however, find quantum physics and metaphysics fascinating and looove theories of alternate realities, time travel, etc. But I also know a lot of NFs that feel that way.



    Things I like: Fantasy books/television/films, sexy wizards, historical fiction, neurotic types, laughing, writing, making music, teasing, lighthearted fun, an exciting/adventurous love, accepting the world in shades of grey, stretching the truth, studying philosophy and the humanities


    Things I dislike: Overly sentimental people, inspirational quotes, robots, people telling me about their crushes on me, people cornering me in a conversation, loyalty for the sake of it, patriotism just for the sake of it, seriousness, situations where laughing is unacceptable (speech classes, funerals)


    Right now, I think I belong in Alpha or Beta. Alpha seems fun and ridiculous and like nobody real gives a fuck. I love my real life Alpha friends. Beta, seems cool, because I keep reading things about chivalry and the epicness to Beta, which I’m down with(Medieval times, FTW!)
    I just don’t want to be a Delta, no offense! They don’t want me either, wah!


    can anybody help enlighten me?

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    mmm, after reading all that I got more of a alpha > beta vibe, but who knows.

    If you got ENTP in the past, I think ENTp will probably be a good type to examine first. Check this link out

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...gical_Extratim

    I recommend just reading up on temperaments, functions, descriptions, inter-type relations, etc., and cutting out the ones that don't fit. Also, try PMing/talking to a couple members who you suspect to be your type to see if there's any common ground.

    Its not too hard, just gotta keep things simple.

    Good luck
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    I agree with Peteronfireeee in that I think ENTP is more likely your type.
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    Yeah you sound more ILE (ENTp) to me too. Some of the things you said make you sound like you're an Infantile type. And I get an Alpha vibe. But I don't have strong arguments for it, just a feeling.

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    yeah i know that feeling. personally,i'd love to be alpha.ISFp specifically.I think life would be so much easier

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    I want to be Alpha or Beta!
    of course you do, they're the two best quadras

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    of course you do, they're the two best quadras
    You took the words right out of my keyboard.


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    I don't think your alpha. You address your relations to others in a slightly paranoid fashion which is quite uncharacteristic of alphas. Your whole post seemed rather Ni/Se valuing "And he has never guilted me about anything, ever, which makes me want to treat him like a better friend." That sounds very Ni/Se-ish to me, establishing a safe zone where some power games won't be played.

    Yes, we are all obsessed with robots and aliens, or spaceships and velociraptors. I don't get much of a sense of Ne from your post.

    I would guess a beta extrovert. Also, how can you type the people around you if you can't type yourself? If your coordinate system has no fixed origin how can you tell if people are fitting relations correctly, or if they share functions with you, etc.

    Arctures: delta just produces boring people
    Arctures: but that's how we like it

    vero: who needs a real person
    vero: That's why I date an SLI

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    Kraezz: you just have to do the ****** thing sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgause View Post
    They’d just get this look in their eyes, like I had always crossed some imaginary line of good vs. evil.
    A line, maybe. I've given people that look.

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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Wow, thank you everyone for all of the awesome responses!

    I am definitely leaning more towards ILE now. I think I thought I was an NF for a while just because all of the whimsical-ness associated with it, but ENTp is whimsical as well.


    I just read this description for ILE women, and it describes me to a tee.

    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ale_and_female

    Most online descriptions of the types seem to associate NF usually with women and NT usually with men, so that is why I was slightly more biased towards thinking I was a feeler. Interesting, indeed!

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    Welcome to the club!!

    Also, thank-you for reminding me of that Middle Ages children's book I wanted to buy...
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    Hahaha, great to be here!

    Oooo...what book are looking to buy!?

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