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    Default ILE's, what were you like as young children?

    I am increasingly starting to think that my son might actually be ILE instead of SLE. Ti-Creative seems quite solid to me (though I could be wrong), but Se vs. Ne for Base is still up in the air. Especially after recently watching some old home videos of myself at his age.

    Those of you who type ILE, what were you like as kids? What signs do you think I should look for in my son?
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    My child may be ILE--boy age seven. Let me know if you'd like me to PM you some photos or share a little info about him.
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    I wonder at which approximate age you can actually type someone. I've read that j/p is already easy to recognize in very yound children in their daily routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    I wonder at which approximate age you can actually type someone. I've read that j/p is already easy to recognize in very yound children in their daily routine.
    Yeah, I'm at least 80% certain my kid is an Ep of some sort. He just turned 4.

    Golden-- thanks for the offer. Maybe a brief description would be helpful. Though for now I'm particularly interested in those on these forums who are certain of their ILE typing. I saw some pics of your boy a while back when you posted them for VI
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Yeah, I'm at least 80% certain my kid is an Ep of some sort. He just turned 4.

    Golden-- thanks for the offer. Maybe a brief description would be helpful. Though for now I'm particularly interested in those on these forums who are certain of their ILE typing. I saw some pics of your boy a while back when you posted them for VI
    Yes, that thread still exists and has a description, so I'll skip it for now. Good luck!
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    Here's my mom's description of me as a child from when we had a thread about mother's descriptions of their children:

    (Note: My bold for emphasis of what I remember of my childhood self-image)

    Descriptors

    Self directed
    Level headed
    Forward thinking
    Open-minded
    Leader
    Influential
    Intense
    Very bright/Intelligent
    Versatile
    Optimistic/sunny
    Creative (? - Depends on the context)
    Gregarious
    Debater for sport
    Assertive
    Bold
    Messy
    Procrastinator/Problems with Followthrough
    Strategic/cunning
    Caring
    Alpha Quadrant qualities


    Vero demonstrated special qualities from a young age; feedback from others revolved around her sunny disposition, being very bright and also intense. For the most part she was laid back and content as a child, although, certainly had no issues communicating her objections. She loved to talk about a lot of things. While I was concerned about timidness on her first day of nursery, this was a non-issue as she didn't even lookback to say goodbye. She walked on into the class and explored her surroundings and engaged in play with the others immediately. This first day was a good predictor of future life events. Throughout school, she was considered one of the top students, qualified for advanced learning opportunities, and occasionally tutored, as well as participated in various leadership opportunities/roles. All was well, so long as she was not constricted to hard-nosed, conventional rules *(like forced to write the letter 'O' a specific way when learning cursive writing). She would either argue or find a way to creatively slip out of following the rule if she felt strongly about it. As a young adult in University, she struggled with narrowing options for a major. She's now settled in a direction. Some big issues arising over the last few years is procrastination. Generally though, I think she works about 1/2-2/3 intellectual capacity. When interested and motivated, she is capable of stepping up to the challenge, rising the bar and blowing away her competition. I have no major negatives, although, anyone's qualities taken to the extreme can be considered a negative. Vero is no different. She can be strategically creative/deceptively cunning, and/or, may hold back on something painful. While on the surface, relations are pleasant and innocuous, she may be a step or two ahead with the knowledge of some news that may pull the rug from under you in the future. I've been blind-sided once or twice. Overall, I'm immensely proud of her, and find it an absolute joy to have a daughter who is bright, assertive, level headed and open-minded .

    *I remember this specific example from grade 4/5 hahaha
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    Hmm. Well, I've read through all the above descriptions, as well as Golden's from her previous thread. Thanks everyone

    Some things you all described do remind me of my son, other things not so much.

    I'm still not sure...gonna have to keep an open mind about it all for a while lnoger, probably until he's in grade school at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Hmm. Well, I've read through all the above descriptions, as well as Golden's from her previous thread. Thanks everyone

    Some things you all described do remind me of my son, other things not so much.

    I'm still not sure...gonna have to keep an open mind about it all for a while lnoger, probably until he's in grade school at least.
    Yeah, open mind is good. I do continue to think my son is an Alpha, and NT>SF, but over time we'll see how he develops.

    Edit: Did you ever happen to read this description, a child portrait of ILE?

    Don Quixote - child portrait, the author - Mr. Ovcharov

    Don Quixote - Baby description

    Fairy-tale characters - from tales of Alice L. Carroll's Alice in Wonderland ".

    Showing an increased curiosity in everything new, unusual, and in various areas. His interests are often chaotic, unstable nature - it is hard for a long time to focus their attention on one lesson. Loves to dream and gather around their peers, engaging them with their stories, often fictional, but serve hot, emotionally and convincingly.

    At times, it finds the apathy, and then he loses interest in everything and misses, with a change of scenery, the appearance of new people and things quickly revived and included in the communication or enjoys another matter. Usually he has a lot of familiar guys (or girls), but this was not always worth the permanent and serious relationship, it's the familiar "just for the company, often by chance.
    Make him do something against the wishes of useless, he resists, can fall into aggression and even do the opposite. Easily shared with other children their own stuff and just take from others, absent-mindedly forgetting to give. Do not take offense and not vindictive.

    To the creative qualities of the child's sotsiotipy include the following: developed imagination, fantasy, and a tendency to meet the challenges of the logical nature and the ability to find their explanation. Therefore, more often praise him for his resourcefulness and ingenuity. If you want to engage him in some sort of thing when he has been passive, play to his vanity: Say it is beyond him, he did not have enough capacity to implement it, etc., but do it diplomatically, with a sense of humor . The result will exceed expectations.

    Encourage your child to a variety of logic puzzles, brain teasers, puzzles. To attach it to a chess or checkers - these games contribute to the development of analytical thinking.

    Normal and tolerant is often perceived shift of his interests and hobbies - this is very typical for sotsiotipy Innovator.

    Adaptive and therefore more vulnerable qualities Innovator are weak willpower and inability to build proper relationships with others, flexibility in the conflict. Do not put him under pressure, forced to do something against his will, even more so with the help of physical punishment - in response are likely to follow an aggressive response.

    Cultivate a child's will power introduction to any particular sport, gradually increasing exercise, accustom regularly do exercises, hardened.

    Teach him constantly monitor their appearance and order in things, to be persistent in achieving their goals.

    Nurture it courtesy towards others, no inclination to cultivate familiarity and sense of superiority over other children. Develop sensitivity and responsiveness, using the motif of the type: "People trust you and are waiting for your help - try not to lose their respect and trust, do not let them."

    Recommendations

    Do not cause an gpubogo pressure. It is better to gently ugovapivayte perform tpebovaniya, based PRECIOUS motives, such as: "You can bring people kotopye vepyat you waiting for your help, potepyat kho.posho their respect and attitude." Or, referring to his NATURAL dobpotu, p.posite help the weaker or less capable people, which is free will be able to do something just kho.posho like him. Often praise him for his resourcefulness and activity. If that fails, sygpayte his pride, say that "he can not do it, and that he did not have enough capacity to implement it, but delayte.eto diplomatically, with a sense of yumopa. Potopaplivayte, customize, ugovapivaya do everything vovpemya, padi sohpaneniya avtopiteta and his relationship with one another in kho.posho.
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    Thanks, Golden. Where did you find that description? Is there an SLE child portrait, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Thanks, Golden. Where did you find that description? Is there an SLE child portrait, too?
    You can find them here:

    http://www.socionic.ru/index.php

    Under the pulldown tab "Types," each type has a child description by the same author.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    You can find them here:

    http://www.socionic.ru/index.php

    Under the pulldown tab "Types," each type has a child description by the same author.
    Thank you Already been having fun reading some of the articles (though the poor translations are hard to wade through after a while).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    You can find them here:

    http://www.socionic.ru/index.php

    Under the pulldown tab "Types," each type has a child description by the same author.
    I feel like you are a surrogate identity for another, older forum member.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I was very shy in until I was in the sixth grade. When I was in preschool and there was some kind of art project, my mom recalls how I was always the last one done but it was the best out of all of the other kids. In third grade, I would not get my school work finished in time but I aced the tests. At home, I was silly and fun at times but stubborn and belligerent at other times.

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    Shy
    Competitive
    Read a lot
    Ask a lot
    Move a lot
    Laugh a lot
    Eat a lot
    Joke a lot
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