I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.
Can you explain why not.
I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.
Can you explain why not.
100% INTP
That is because you typed yourself using the descriptions and the tests and ignored the functions when you attempted self-identification.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Edited for gayness.
ENTp
It shouldn't switch, so you can relax - at least for now.I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.
Can you explain why not.
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If you are going to compare the models, it is better to ignore the functions, because the definitions of the functions are not the same. Compare the descriptions if you want to get a more complete picture of the INTP/INTp type.That is because you types yourself using the descriptions and the tests and ignored the functions when you attempted self-identification.
I just thought they normally did.Originally Posted by Transigent
100% INTP
Mine don't either.
I dont' think it's a case where they *do* switch, it's just that they're defined differently so they could. They aren't defined oppositely, just differently.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Where that whole idea of the j/p switch thing came from was a little wierdness on the part of MBTI.
If you read Isabel Myers' book Gifts Differing, you'll find for instance that the INFP is listed as "Introverted Feeler" and INTP is listed as "Introverted Thinker." In Socionics, the dominant function for both INFps and INTps is Ni (Introverted Intuition), and so they are both "Intuitive Introverts." It's the INFj in Socionics whose dominant function is Introverted Feeling and the INTj whose dimonant function is Introverted Thinking.
BUT, MBTI defines their functions differently from Socionics (and both systems define them differently from Jung's original ones - Jung himself said typing individual people was basically nonsense), and so it doesn't always work out that j must turn into p. I'm INFP in both.