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    I'm LSI.

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    After seeing you in the chat I endorse this typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    After seeing you in the chat I endorse this typing.
    I beg to differ. Unlike an introvert, and very much like a Te, Dj engages people in Banter, in a conversation, is engaged with objects/people and never introverts (remains quiet and contemplates); he speaks his mind almost without introverting his thoughts. Read some Jung's work and you'll see the correlation with what I'm saying. He's not shy, reserved, and is actually very open, amicable.

    Te observes actions around them and on more then one occasion, DJ has pointed out how my actions affect the atmosphere around me as my duals aid and guide me on this effort because I am not objective...being an introvert who is into my own feelings and sensations.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I beg to differ. Unlike an introvert, and very much like a Te, Dj engages people in Banter, in a conversation, is engaged with objects/people and never introverts (remains quiet and contemplates); he speaks his mind almost without introverting his thoughts. Read some Jung's work and you'll see the correlation with what I'm saying. He's not shy, reserved, and is actually very open, amicable.
    You think discojoe is a type? That's funny...he uses and ALL THE TIME. Information metabolism is much more telling than dichotomies, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    You think discojoe is a type? That's funny...he uses and ALL THE TIME. Information metabolism is much more telling than dichotomies, don't you think?
    Nope..he can demonstrate Se but doesn't actually use it. He's very plan like. He's efficient, uses routines, unlike Squark, who is LSI, Dj is far less impulsive. Dj's likely to assess a situation from many perspectives before acting unlike LSI; for example, given building a house, he will be far more likely to take all aspects into consideration then to make an impulsive move that will cause a flood, just pointing out Squark's example form Differentiating ST's thread.

    Using Te, discojoe also takes into consideration what might happen, showing an Ne valuing. This is better demonstrated in his thread "Discojoe was right about the flood"
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Nope..he can demonstrate Se but doesn't actually use it. He's very plan like. He's efficient, uses routines, unlike Squark, who is LSI, Dj is far less impulsive. Dj's likely to assess a situation from many perspectives before acting unlike LSI; for example, given building a house, he will be far more likely to take all aspects into consideration then to make an impulsive move that will cause a flood, just pointing out Squark's example form Differentiating ST's thread.

    Using Te, discojoe also takes into consideration what might happen, showing an Ne valuing. This is better demonstrated in his thread "Discojoe was right about the flood"
    I don't even know what to say about this. discojoe hardly ever pays attention to other people's ideas. He also made a thread about his abs.

    I wouldn't call him impulsive, but he's not super-careful about what he says either. Also all the stuff he does just to provoke people clearly points to and use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    unlike Squark, who is LSI
    I'm not the only LSI here, and we're not all clones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I'm LSI.


    btw welcome back DJ
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    hello Discojoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    hello Discojoe.
    Talk about me.

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    OMG UR ALL SO LOST HE IS ILI AND JOY IS LIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    OMG UR ALL SO LOST HE IS ILI AND JOY IS LIE
    yeah, joy is LIE.

    I'm not sure what dj is but thats not a big concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Talk about me.
    but I just did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj's type
    Gor'kiy (ISTJ)
    Inspector is initial (sensory)
    (requiring - of the Eng. demander)

    It is irregular and impulsive, does not always follow itself that order, which it requires from others, in this case it is capable to condemn those, who disrupt this order. It is communicable and courteous on the distant distance, but on the close one it can prove to be intolerant. Yesli' it to catch, can answer by aggression. The aim is leadership, but he leads better the small associations. It outwardly appears with fortitude. Men frequently bear whiskers, in the clothing they prefer free style.

    Inspector is terminal (logical)
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    Most rational logical type. It is very constructive, the aim is hierarchy, it can all surrounding "zaorganizovat'", itself works thoroughly, is led to the end everything, it misses not one detail. Malodinamichen, does not transfer confusion. Outwardly strict, sustained, somewhat single-plot. It is official in the working situation even with the close relatives, it occurs, that in it is manifested the barrack style of behavior. In the clothing also conservative. Its suit, as a rule, is strict, dark tones, it resembles form.

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    You're SLE.

    Welcome back dude. We've missed you.

    Also, watch out for the falling cow crap.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Aleksei is right.

    You're SLE until that moustache gets grown.

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    Actually I think I'm EII now.

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    lol
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Actually I think I'm EII now.
    good call. drop this front of Se and embrace your true EII nature. its ok, you're safe here.

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    Maritsa, where is the Si-creative then? I don't see how he's Si>Se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Actually I think I'm EII now.
    I guess this is meant as a joke? since you didn't correct your typing below your avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I'm LSI.
    What a farce. You make a typing thread but announce your type before asking it. That's cause you know you're really not LSI I suspect.

    A person is LSI not because they act with a 'bad' atmosphere on forums, they're LSI because they have leading Ti with Second Se.

    And how you argue eg economics is Te. No LSI in the world has that amount of Te. And you might fool people here somehow, maybe even yourself, but I bet you know something isn't right...which is what this thread really smells like...an attempt to convince yourself.

    ILI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    What a farce. You make a typing thread but announce your type before asking it. That's cause you know you're really not LSI I suspect.

    A person is LSI not because they act with a 'bad' atmosphere on forums, they're LSI because they have leading Ti with Second Se.

    And how you argue eg economics is Te. No LSI in the world has that amount of Te. And you might fool people here somehow, maybe even yourself, but I bet you know something isn't right...which is what this thread really smells like...an attempt to convince yourself.

    ILI.
    Actually, it seems mostly attention-seeking to me. *shrug* My impressions are not infallible, though.
    Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Actually, it seems mostly attention-seeking to me. *shrug* My impressions are not infallible, though.
    yeah it looks like that indeed. and I hate attention seekers btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    lol, "fraternize"
    rofl

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    yeah it looks like that indeed. and I hate attention seekers btw.
    Well I hate ******s, so we're at a standoff mirite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    rofl



    Well I hate ******s, so we're at a standoff mirite.
    it seems you are irritated, I guess this adds to the conclusion that my speculation was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    What a farce. You make a typing thread but announce your type before asking it. That's cause you know you're really not LSI I suspect.

    A person is LSI not because they act with a 'bad' atmosphere on forums, they're LSI because they have leading Ti with Second Se.

    And how you argue eg economics is Te. No LSI in the world has that amount of Te. And you might fool people here somehow, maybe even yourself, but I bet you know something isn't right...which is what this thread really smells like...an attempt to convince yourself.

    ILI.
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    Don't be upset and stop raging. There's no good need for such an extreme reaction.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Don't be upset and stop raging. There's no good need for such an extreme reaction.
    I'M NEITHER UPSET NOR RAGING. LOL @ YOUR INABILITY TO PERCEIVE THAT I AM BEING JOVIAL AND FLIPPANT.

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    Usually that's kind of hard to do over this site anyway. Are you drunk?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    So what type are we settled on?

    LSE?

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    You didn't answer my question:

    1. Do you plan and like routines?
    2. Are you sensitive to Time, as in making sure you use it, keep your eye on it, not do things that are a "waste of time", are time sensitive?
    3. How do you feel and respond when someone acts Se when you're trying to relax and do Si?
    3. Do you observe action in your outside surroundings? Do you point out to people what they are doing wrong and make suggestions as to how they can improve things?
    4. Do you seek relationships?
    5. Why do you seek the comfort of your immediate relations? (This doesn't make sense for an so-called Se valuer because this indicates that you prefer stability and should just pick up and go by impulse and instinct).
    6. Is your external, working energy steady or all over the place (not your internal psychic energy as it may relate with ADD), but external. As in, if I were to film you doing a task for a long time, would I see someone who does a good amount of meticulous work with detail and concentration?

    If YES to the above then YOU'RE LSE and I don't want to deal with it anymore.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You didn't answer my question:

    1. Do you plan and like routines?
    2. Are you sensitive to Time, as in making sure you use it, keep your eye on it, not do things that are a "waste of time", are time sensitive?
    3. How do you feel and respond when someone acts Se when you're trying to relax and do Si?
    3. Do you observe action in your outside surroundings? Do you point out to people what they are doing wrong and make suggestions as to how they can improve things?
    4. Do you seek relationships?
    5. Why do you seek the comfort of your immediate relations? (This doesn't make sense for an so-called Se valuer because this indicates that you prefer stability and should just pick up and go by impulse and instinct).
    6. Is your external, working energy steady or all over the place (not your internal psychic energy as it may relate with ADD), but external. As in, if I were to film you doing a task for a long time, would I see someone who does a good amount of meticulous work with detail and concentration?

    If YES to the above then YOU'RE LSE and I don't want to deal with it anymore.

    Those are good questions but I think # 4 is a little unfair lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You didn't answer my question:
    Well maybe I'll answer your FACE.


    1. Do you plan and like routines?
    No. I like having a stable, predictable living environment, but other than that, doing the same thing over and over bores me and makes me want to kill baby sheep.


    2. Are you sensitive to Time, as in making sure you use it, keep your eye on it, not do things that are a "waste of time", are time sensitive?
    Yes.


    3. How do you feel and respond when someone acts Se when you're trying to relax and do Si?
    What the fuck do you mean by Se?


    3. Do you observe action in your outside surroundings? Do you point out to people what they are doing wrong and make suggestions as to how they can improve things?
    Yes.


    4. Do you seek relationships?
    wtf


    5. Why do you seek the comfort of your immediate relations? (This doesn't make sense for an so-called Se valuer because this indicates that you prefer stability and should just pick up and go by impulse and instinct).
    Blah blah blah. You don't understand socionics.


    6. Is your external, working energy steady or all over the place (not your internal psychic energy as it may relate with ADD), but external. As in, if I were to film you doing a task for a long time, would I see someone who does a good amount of meticulous work with detail and concentration?
    Yes.


    If YES to the above then YOU'RE LSE and I don't want to deal with it anymore.
    rofl



    Here is what is going on:

    (Before I go further, I want to make it clear that I have absolutely no ulterior motive in this discussion. These are impartial observations and nothing more.)

    Maritsa isn't EII. She isn't even Delta. She's Ni-EIE, probably 1w2 sx primary (yes, I know sx is "overtyped," but it's totally fucking obvious in this case).

    Look at her posts, her descriptions of LSEs, Si, Te, etc. Notice anything? When she describes those things, she is actually talking about LSI, Se, Ti, etc. Maybe not 1:1, but it's still very close, generally speaking. For instance, she describes LSEs as being screw-turners, standing over your shoulder like hawks, vigilant to any misdemeanors.

    But LSEs aren't like that. In my experience, they tend to back off as long as you follow their directives. LSIs, on the other hand, are much more likely to nitpick over every perceived infraction of how they think you should be doing things. It's not about the result (accomplishing the primary objectives), it's about the process (doing it correctly for the sake of it). This is one of the worst things about LSIs and it's something I try to not ever do, rofl.

    Now examine her remarks about time-awareness. That is something that applies to LSIs, not LSEs. LSEs seem to prefer ignoring time in favor of working at their preferred pace, getting things done. When time suddenly becomes an issue, they get irritated and turn into the classical short-tempered LSE.

    LSIs are the ones with their eyes on the clock. A lot of emphasis is placed on proper procedure, which invariably includes punctuality. I hate it when I do something I view as wrong or improper, and I keep my eye on the clock constantly during the hours leading up to work or some other appointment. It's not that I think anything consequential will arise from my tardiness, but that I simply can't stand the idea of not keeping in line with my idea of an elegant, finely tuned clockwork itinerary. It's arbitrary, random, and Ti.

    LSEs are punctual for practical Te reasons; they know that being late on repeated occasions can result in disciplinary action. They can go overboard with this sort of thinking due to Ni PoLR tunnel vision, but generally they don't follow any procedure unless they deem it of practical necessity. LSIs, being infatuated by efficiency, require no such motivators unless under extreme stress.

    I won't pretend that I've conjured up a comprehensive argument here, but it does make some decent fucking sense if you think about it.


    A couple bits of additional, more subjective and thereby less admissible evidence:

    She VIs EIE. She bears a notable resemblance to Golden, which I noticed the first time I spoke with Golden on tinychat.

    Her seemingly absolute infatuation with me makes MUCH more sense if she were EIE. It all began when I began putting on horrendously exaggerated displays of Se and directing them at her. An EII would most likely think it's funny, but not take it seriously, and certainly wouldn't engage it. With Maritsa, there was the victim/aggressor dynamic going on:

    She told me to stop. I said no.

    She told me to stop. I said no.

    She told me to stop. I said no.

    She suddenly falls in love with me.

    A textbook, unbelievably archetypal example of Se/Ni romance style.


    So in conclusion, Maritsa seems totally insane because she has Socionics backwards. It would be like someone speaking to you as though it were opposite day.

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    she could be EIE. the thought has occurred to me on more than one occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Maritsa isn't EII. She isn't even Delta. She's Ni-EIE
    No shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    bunch of stuff
    Good post.

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    Whatever DJ. You're not here, you're not around me and you can't observe my actions so your conclusions about me being an extravert are unfounded. Besides you still haven't read Jung's work on the Psychological Types, so what could you know? NOTHING. You're only slightly mature (Immature to be precise). Predictable living environment renders itself to stability, which LSE like. It even says it in Wikisocion.

    Seriously, you couldn't be dumber if you can't find similarities between what is written and what I am.

    Fi -introverted feelings, that when someone says something that is not objectively applicable to me, if it bothers my ideal and unreal outlook then that affects my emotions; I am empathetic towards just about everything; I can step in their shoes, unlike Fe types... I suppress emotions within me and yes there is a sea of emotions inside. The difference is in here:

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...nd-empathy.htm

    Ne -I see and can come up with multiple possibilities and ideas to keep my relationship with my stability loving dual interesting, but also, at the same time non-monotonous. I look for ideas rather then data in literature and other writings/sources.

    Other functions fall into place from there on...

    Just don't address me again, please. I've had enough of you. It's like doing this:

    I have good number of duals around me now...don't need you if you can't be smart enough to understand. A person's activity level does not indicate E/I only whether a person is experiencing activities for their objective nature, or taking them in and making them subjective.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Good post.
    ya. that was beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post

    LSEs are punctual for practical Te reasons; they know that being late on repeated occasions can result in disciplinary action. They can go overboard with this sort of thinking due to Ni PoLR tunnel vision, but generally they don't follow any procedure unless they deem it of practical necessity. LSIs, being infatuated by efficiency, require no such motivators unless under extreme stress.

    LSI do NOT prefer efficiency. PERIOD. You can only be ONE thing, there is no middle ground. You are either efficient and Te type or not efficient, rather productive and Se type. That's it; it's clear as black and white with Jung's descriptions of the types. You can't make your own type by saying you're an Efficient LSI.

    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    LSIs are the ones with their eyes on the clock. A lot of emphasis is placed on proper procedure, which invariably includes punctuality. I hate it when I do something I view as wrong or improper, and I keep my eye on the clock constantly during the hours leading up to work or some other appointment. It's not that I think anything consequential will arise from my tardiness, but that I simply can't stand the idea of not keeping in line with my idea of an elegant, finely tuned clockwork itinerary. It's arbitrary, random, and Ti.
    that's Ni polr. Types who are strong with Ni know and have a good feeling for time, it's those who don't who worry about it and plan excessively and who need to constantly watch for it because it stresses them out. Feel bothered, stressed by time?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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