Faces of Consensus - INTj (Robespierre)
The following pictures depict the Eastern Consensus (75%-100% convergence) of the type INTj. Full methodology, and additional data can be be found at the source:
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Adomaitis Regimantas
Amosov Nicholas
Budraitis Juozas
Giuseppe Garibaldi
Paul Gauguin
Victor Gulenko
Rene Descartes
Thomas Jefferson
Felix Dzerzhinsky
Yermak, Vladimir (Ермак Владимир)
Immanuel Kant
Thomas More
Sergei Rachmaninoff
Maximilien Robespierre
Anton Chekhov
Oleg Jankowski
Last edited by Crispy; 01-06-2011 at 06:28 AM.
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Robespierre was LSI. Jefferson was some kind of Decisive type, probably IEI.
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Incorrect. Although I now know why you type Light from Death Note as LSI. Too bad their almost identical goals were focused entirely on
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Like Light, Robespierre had a very short time preference, and was quite Decisive. He was fixated on having his plans put in action immediately. Much like authority figures such as Stalin (the general consensus for whom is LSI), and quite unlike the abstract theorists Kant and Descartes (who are, indeed, LII).Originally Posted by Crispy
Incorrect. Although I now know why you type Light from Death Note as LSI. Too bad their almost identical goals were focused entirely on
I'm not sure how you can make arguments like these (appeal to authority fallacy btw) and still call yourselfI still don't see how you claim to have any knowledge of the information elements, even to go so far as to exclaim that 15 socionists (many of whom were pioneers of the theory in the East) were wrong about the Prototypical LII. (Kant and Descartes commonly share this title with Robespierre).leading. Surely you can understand that consensus can easily be erroneous if it follows from faulty assumptions?
Jefferson was a sappy romantic with an obsession with both his past and tradition.And Jefferson INFp = LOL.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
The only other arguments I could make would involve the numerous readings I've done on Robespierre, but since I know you do zero research even if sources are brought up (ie you ignore evidence) there is no reason for me to discuss reality with you. Suffice to say if you actually read biographies about the people you type, you would be of the same opinion as the East, myself, and anyone else who has any capability of understanding the theory. Seeing as how no one listens to you anyway, I have nothing to worry about.I'm not sure how you can make arguments like these (appeal to authority fallacy btw) and still call yourself
Btw typing famous people when your self typing is obviously wrong makes you look retarded. Thought I should let you know.
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I've read up on Robespierre as well. You could enlighten me as to what about his personality is so clearly
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Did I miss something here?
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