I think Garnet was IEI, with her relationship with Zidane being IEI-SLE duality - she was essentially an Aeris (IEI) or a more subdued Rinoa, Rinoa and Squall being EIE-LSI duality.
A better example of an ILE in anime is Konata Izumi from Lucky Star. In video games, I think Lucca from Chrono Trigger fits quite nicely.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Urahara Kisuke from Bleach
Merciful Goddess from Saiyuki (mostly a guess)
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Oh yes, Kisuke is a brilliant example of an ILE. Kudos for that pick.Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Thankee.
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Yutaka Watari from Descendants of Darkness (possibly)
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I totally disagree about Zidane being SLE. He's way too light hearted to be a T.
Agree about Lucca. C subtype, yes?
Or would you say a D?
Bird Studio style is not effective for VI purposes. So instead...
http://kagerostudios.b1.jcink.com/in...=0&#entry76648
He has Fe. SLEs have Fe-HA, and it can be quite apparent. If he's not SLE, he's probably an EIE with an entirely too strong Se-HA. I therefore think SLE fits him better.I totally disagree about Zidane being SLE. He's way too light hearted to be a T.
Agree about Lucca. C subtype, yes?
Or would you say a D?
Bird Studio style is not effective for VI purposes. So instead...
http://kagerostudios.b1.jcink.com/in...=0&#entry76648
I'd say VIing animated characters doesn't exactly work, but based on how she's written I'd say she's C-ILE. ILE-Ne in Gulenko's IE subtypes.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
On the matter of VI, it appears we have a difference of opinion. Let us agree to disagree.
Cid Kramer, FFVIII
Harmonizer, I suspect.
L'Arachel, Fire Emblem 8
Of all the types, I think ENTps are the easiest to distinguish. They always have that peculiar mix of ice cold logic and extraverted gregariousness.
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You're wrong about Squall and Rinoa. Rinoa is certifiably ESE -- the uneven lip, let alone the damn enjoyment factor, are absolute ESE indicators. Squall is LSE... it's been debated on these forums to death: a "workaholic SeeD." Workaholic = LSE.
EIEs have just as much Fe as ESEs, explaining the "enjoyment factor." She also seems to have Se-HA, showing occasional signs of demand for immediate action which she usually gets by pressuring Squall in a manner common of EIEs.
Squall is nowhere near mobile or energetic enough for EJ temperament - he's practically an IJ stereotype, calm and mellow but internally strained and conflicted. He's likewise an introverted stereotype - he's nigh-mute, and seems to get no enjoyment out of any sort of social interaction. He also seems to display Se rather than Si, being prone to occasional impulsive bursts and mobilization of authority (which Rinoa seems attracted to, further pointing to EIE for her). As for LSIs not being nearly as much workaholics as LSEs, you evidently don't know very many LSIs.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Bah, he just thinks she's ESE because he wants to 'dualize' with her, if you know what I mean...
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Well, too bad for him. I claimed her when I was 10 or 11!Bah, he just thinks she's ESE because he wants to 'dualize' with her, if you know what I mean...My first, and thankfully only, video game crush.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Zidane is ESE. His entire role in FFIX is as the cheerleader, raising everyone's spirits, being the indefatiguable voice of "Come on guys!" Back when I thought I was IEE, I was convinced he was my identical, but I don't see Mirror as being such a long shot (esp. when you consider idealised self vs. actual self; the former for me is definitely an ESE).
At least in the US localisation.
Anyway, I've heard another theory about Rinoa and Squall that they're IEE-SLI. Which particular intraquadra complementary pair is irrelevant. I think the characters are all so vague in contrast to the sharpness of their relationships in VIII and IX that every man and his dog wants to claim them for their quadra.
Speaking of which I had a dream where I could talk to my dog. Then he turned into a man. Then back into a dog. It was weird.
I agree.
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