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    I'm not sure if that "love" is legal...

    The guy is an idiot for selling the books. Writing a book and creating art is one thing, intentionally helping others to commit crimes is another.

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    How sick is that?
    Forget free speech. This is something which can't be tolerated. Send him to a mental hospital and lock him up. That would might be better than simple prison, since people tend to get out of that fast if they spent there a few years.
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    this guy seems like an SLI or something. come on, a "how-to" book? lol practical methodical knowledge - that's so .


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    Hmm interesting, lol I don't support pedophilia at all and I find that guy odd, but this brings up a free speech issue... the banning of books by the government and arresting people for the ideas they express versus the actions they commit.

    Of course in this instance, its hard to defend this guy.... pedophilia is universally regarded as disgusting... but what if there was ever an instance where a certain ideology spread so rapid that anyone against it would be arrested for expressing a dissenting view and books would be banned that expressed unapproved views. Where does one draw the line between personal freedom and safety of the members of society? The fact there isn't a clear guide for that is disturbing.

    As far as the guy is concerned I don't know what to make of him, no one just goes out and spends time writing a book on pedophilia just because, but if the guy is telling the truth, I don't see anything wrong with simply writing about a subject that is disturbing or disgusting (I wouldn't ever imagine buying the book though). I'm actually more curious to know why the hell he decided to write the book, because its not something people take an interest to.... is he trying to make a point about free speech, is he really a sick minded person who like pedophilia but is smart enough to never do it so he writes about it instead like a sick fantasy, is he trying to make a case that pedophilia isn't always wrong, did he have a friend arrested for statuatory rape he felt didn't deserve conviction, was it all the media exposure about pedophiles.... etc etc. Why did he write the damn thing.

    None of that matters though, because society is completely intolerant to pedophilia, and the moment he so much as admitted he wrote it, he had sealed himself behind bars. I don't think anyone will ever know the real reason, because no one really cares about the issues. I don't blame them though, pedophilia is pretty disturbing, and I can see why they'd prefer to just lock them away.

    There are so many issues though, because also.... it says there is a crime about "You cannot engage or depict children in a harmful relationship".... what about movies that depict children in sick predictements.... like chuckie the doll from the horror movie, or dateline NBC..... purely because in one instance it is subjectively interpretted as pro-pedophilia and another it is against-pedophilia. That of course is disturbing because what if its neutral in content and not enough effort is taken to advocate against it, and then you get thrown into jail subject to the neruosis of the court.

    Also the quote "The message is very clear: If you write a book, if you sell that book, if you transmit that book to anyone in our jurisdiction, then we will investigate you and arrest, because our goal is protect the children," and "There may be nothing that the other 49 states can do, but there is something that the state of Florida can do ... to make sure we prosecute Philip Greaves for his manifesto,"

    It seems like florida is trying to use this as a PR stunt, originally the issue was raised concerning amazon.com to distribute the material, which amazon.com defending the guys right, but under media pressure buckled. Then of course florida, purchased the book, importing it into their jurisdication and then prosecuted him on florida statues and got him extradited to florida where they pressed charges, then told the media.... that in florida we protect our children etc.... a clearly red/conservative state.... the guys seems to be a pawn for a political PR scheme. Maybe they will be exceedingly harsh on the guy to make a point and play to the conservative majority in florida. I don't know, but it complicates things, because not only does the citizen now have to monitor their thoughts to make sure its properly in line with the dominant majority but they have to make sure there in line with foreign identities or else you get extradited. Then what if there is a difference between the ideologies of foreign identities and domestic then you must choose between persecution by your domestic governance or a foreign one, and whatever choice you make, there is going to be someone against it, which flies in the face of the whole entire point of the law, safety.... it actually creates an environment of complete and total fear and persecution.

    I don't support pedophilia, but there are so many issues in this concerning law enforcement ethics.

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    Banning any type of information is illogical. Underneath his weirdo mask he seems to have just written it for the lulz. He handled those questions well... too well.
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