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Last edited by aixelsyd; 11-29-2010 at 03:50 AM.
People don't really consider me too serious in the conversational sense. I've been known to stir up some heavy topics at times, but on average I'd say I'm pretty upbeat in conversation and keep it fairly light with some ironic jokes and sarcastic criticism.
Where people think I'm too serious is how I approach life in general. I'm unwilling to take the stupid risks that a lot of my friends make, and I've always had my priorities straight. People see me as stiff in that I'm not willing to do many crazy or 'fun' things. I've always been the sober realist, and I almost always take the 'smart' approach to everything.
It depends on the company.
My wide range of interests and knowledge allows me to shift to more appropriate gears, if needed. If you're one dimensional, I will only speak of materialistic matters. If you're two dimensional I'll try to add my personal comments. If you're three dimensional, I'll try to lead you into my own world of timeless observations.
There are two kinds of people who know me:
- People who see me on the outside
- People who've seen me on the inside
The first group knows me as reserved and serious. The second, deep, interesting and sometimes silly.
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I like having "deep" moments with people. These moments are when I feel like I really get to know someone for real and those people get to know the real me. I consider people who I can share my problems and who care share theirs with me to be closer friends usually. I look at people who are unwilling to have these moments as having barriers to be slowly removed or just shallow people not really interested in really getting to know their friends but all about the fun. Of course when people who I don't know try to talk my ear off about their deepest problems that can make even me uncomfortable.
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lol. Yeah... um, if you actually enjoy doing that, that would perplex me as well. I'll join the "you're too serious" crowd. But I wonder if the idea of socionics is that it's actually best for you to live your life that way?
I read the post, aixlsyd. Doesn't make 100% sense to me, but I found it interesting.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
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I don't know that I really enjoy it. I just don't see the point in doing something that doesn't make any sense to me. Like, why take a stupid risk, and why should I do something which could get in the way of my bigger priorities? It's just making life more difficult.
I guess, it's just that I'm always taking the future into consideration, and if something doesn't take me to where I want to be, it just seems like a waste to me. It's like chocolate cake. Sure it's good.. but only for 5 minutes and then all you're left with in the long term are fatter thighs and clogged arteries, so what was the point?
Yeah I relate to being overly serious definitely. I can also be weird and silly, but also serious at the same time. There's not really any point in time where I'm being silly but not being serious, and my kind of seriousness isn't forced and emotive in the sense that I'm drawing you in. It just exists, it is who I am and it can be hard to tell that I am that serious.
When people start being playful in discussion, there is obviously an immediate disconnect because the transfer of thought shifts, the theme and focus changes. I'm automatically bored by that kind of shift, and I do not care to get involved. When you add in silliness to a serious conversation, it almost never draws away from it, from my perspective. It's there to interest and aid the thought process, and merry types can't help but to include their-oriented distracting side comments about you or the situation, emotive shifts, not intellectual shifts, and that emotiveness really pervades my
. This is one of the easiest ways to tell who is
-valuing, because its so obvious to me. There are even a couple of self-typed ILIs on here who fit this bill, who objectively speaking, might be really hard to classify into such a reasoning. It's just an intuitive feeling, nothing more.
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My experience fwiw is that Gammas can be rather serious in the sense that their jokes aren't lighthearted. They're more 'cutting' and to the point....which can put other quadras off. I suppose the other side is, if this being the case, yourself (aixelsyd) maybe find the general joival humour and 'exciting' environment of Fe to be torture!
As for serious conversations, I think this varies from the person and i'm not entirely sure it's type related.
Was reading a reader analysis on Socionics.com. It looked at which quadra is the most mature ...
An explanation on "childish" and "mature" views in the Socion
I think that explains in part why Gamma looks so "serious" to non-Gammas. As another Gamma, it seems natural to me to have mature perceptions and also have the ability to turn those perceptions into meaningful results.
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Personally, even when I am at my goofy best, I make jokes with allusions to experiences that are commonplace but everyone doesn't always recall those immediately. As a result, it seems like I am on a private joke with myself ... so that too contributes to the serious part.
And, if I see something that is problematic, I at the very least contribute to raising awareness about the situation if I cannot fix it myself. So, yes, we talk about problems, don't look away from those ... and that does get us the badge of "serious". But it don't bother me.
Also, this need for a fun atmosphere is a social contrivance of sorts ... in some societies more so than in others. But that is Fe ...
Last edited by AQ; 11-26-2010 at 03:23 PM.
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This whole "article" is a perfect example of self-flattery via socionics, from my point of view, especially Merry/Serious part. Or maybe I'm just Merry. Except if someone doesn't identify, uber-objective Pinocchio will just tell them they're wrong and delusional about themselves, even though he never met them... but the theory must be true, no matter what.
Not sure whether I understood ur intention correctly ... but, yeah, IRL there are plenty of Gammas who sit around and waste their time and life even if they have the ability to create something larger than what was just handed to them.
And, there are plenty of non-Gammas out there who have created moments of much more value ....
But, this reader analysis looks at the approaches the quadras take. "Mature" is a word loaded with positive connotations and so does seem self-flattering, I agree.
BTW, I think the writer is an INTj.
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