Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
I was wondering today...

Could michael jackson be an SEI.

Or is that out of the question?

His softness is typical for SEI.

I hope I don't make things more difficult now :-)
Wow, good question... Alpha certainly works better than Delta... SEI is not out of the question. (It's probably the 3rd best option IMO.)

What's troubling about MJ as SEI is Si base vs. Si POLr... It would be very strange for a SEI to be "eating one meager meal a day... weighing 110 lbs at death, stomach full of nothing but painkillers..." Lack of awareness of Si seems to have been a trend in Michael's life. (For example, if Si base--do the serial plastic surgeries make sense?? the garish military clothing?? the fantastic lifestyle?)

From what I've read, Michael was a hypochondriac, with very little Si awareness.


Wittmont... tereg makes very good points, and explains them better than I do... Seeking to expand influence/to be wealthy in the way quoted, etc, in Socionics, is Se agenda... Reading your posts, it seems to me that you might be confusing base Se (e.g. SLE, LSI, SEE, ESI,) with Se seeking... The two come across very differently. It seems to me that you may be expecting Michael's Se seeking to look like, e.g. Marlon Bando's Se (SLE, one of Michael's best friends btw.) It doesn't...

My Se seeking does not come across like Brando's--rather like Michael's--in the choices I make, the ppl I associate with, the goals I have.

You ask to know where we see the beta values..? Please re-read the posts in this thread... There are examples on examples... (I am sorry if I haven't connected the dots--but the dots are there to connect.)

If you cannot see FeNi (even potentially) in what tereg posted about Michael/Barnum, or Fe in Michael's videos/lyrics, I'm not sure that further discussion will be profitable.