I'm sorry but any Se Michael has is super lightweight and harmless and childish. However I see a lot of Fi complaints in his texts and the overall feel of his videos and music and texts is an overwhelming Si smoothness.

I have no problem whatsoever putting Michael down as an EIE and in beta if you can show me exactly where you see all this Se and the beta values. But to me he feels way too lightweight to be a hardhitting beta, but that can of course be part of his severe neurosis and complexes.

Usher is probably SLE but super-ego friendships are hardly uncommon are they and especially since Usher is a huge fan of MJ's.

I'm sorry but MJ still feels way too Fi, too Si, too non Se, above all too Infantile, for me to be convinced by opinions and superficial likeness of EIE. I am also still not convinced Presley is LSI, as I said, if the people around him really were beta ST's then I can see EIE for him as I doubt he would chose to be around his conflictors etc.