View Poll Results: What type is Michael Jackson?

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  • ILE (ENTp)

    0 0%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    2 9.09%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    1 4.55%
  • LII (INTj)

    0 0%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    0 0%
  • IEI (INFp)

    5 22.73%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    3 13.64%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    0 0%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    2 9.09%
  • ILI (INTp)

    0 0%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    1 4.55%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    3 13.64%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    1 4.55%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    1 4.55%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    0 0%
  • EII (INFj)

    3 13.64%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    Jackson was infantile to the point, beyond the point, of the pathetic. He was literally screaming out for a caregiver to take care of him. Can you imagine him with a beta ST Se aggressor?
    Wittmont, I believe that the word "infantile" might be confusing you here... Certainly, Michael Jackson acted child-like, e.g. all that Peter Pan, Neverland stuff... However, if you listen to him speak about why he does so, his reasons are almost archetypically "victim." (Ever heard the album "HIStory? It's perhaps the most confrontationally 'victim' album I've ever heard... Specifically, the lyrics to the song "Childhood," which describe his reasons for acting so childlike... They are flippant challenges to the 'adult world' that 'made' him--not playful 'I'm just wanna make you giggle' infantile behavior.) His aggressive crotch-grabbing... His increasingly angry albums... This is all victim behavior, which does not compute with infantile behavior.

    Im suggesting that you consider what both words--"infantile" and "victim" mean in a Socionics sense--and then, after digging deeper into this case, apply what you consider... And I believe you will come to a better understanding of the terms, and this particular case, (i.e. M. Jackson as beta NF.)

    Throughout his life, MJ surrounded himself with beta ST aggressors... His best friends... His two ex-wives --Lisa-Marie Presley and Debbie Rowe--were both Beta ST aggressors.

    According to Christopher Anderson's book, (a trashy bio I read years ago,) MJ was fascinated by all things related to the Mafia--filming two videos in that style, "Smooth Criminal," and "You Rock My World..." Fascinated by all things perverse and strange (Howard Hughes, for example.) None of this speaks to Delta values... However, it speaks to beta values.
    Last edited by JuJu; 06-29-2009 at 11:35 PM.

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