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    So what types are the most likely not to care about inputing emotion, like when someone asks me "how are you doing?" I might respond "uh yeah" or "alright" because I feel like other people need to cool down a little bit and not get me so involved. I want there to be a calm, relaxed atmosphere where I can think and reflect, and I tend to think other people are being invasive to my peace of mind, or trying to diverge my plans or thoughts. I know its weird, but I like when people leave me alone especially if we're hanging out together, we can each focus on different things, or not distract each other from our thoughts, but still be in each others company with the ability to share thoughts with one another, without over-doing it. I like going over to my friend's house where its pretty silent and irritant free, its rather dim, you can kind of get lost, but basically you're able to relax and have your own space, and you don't have to commit to people. You can go in and out and it's not like its some big deal that you're starting up the conversation again or disconnecting, and it's definitely no big deal that you're paying absolutely zero attention to what's going on around you.

    I think ENTps are able to fit this profile pretty well, because they're Fi-PoLR so they're not really concerned with maintaining communication or keeping a close eye on connectivity, or caring much when something else comes up and there's a disconnect. Then especially the fact that they're static types and need to focus more on their thoughts, and Si-valuing they're not-decisive types, so they're naturally more relaxed and aren't of the mindset that they need to do something right away. I can picture more extroverted ENTps who talk a lot maybe going overboard and getting on my nerves, but they're pretty socially-conscious people because of Fe, they're just not always very interested in the social aspect, which is why I think they don't typically seem that extroverted, and are usually good at blending in by kind of fading out in to their head.

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by POLIKUJM i will not let you edit this without being noticed
    So what types are the most likely not to care about inputing emotion, like when someone asks me "how are you doing?" I might respond "uh yeah" or "alright" because I feel like other people need to cool down a little bit and not get me so involved. I want there to be a calm, relaxed atmosphere where I can think and reflect, and I tend to think other people are being invasive to my peace of mind, or trying to diverge my plans or thoughts. I know its weird, but I like when people leave me alone especially if we're hanging out together, we can each focus on different things, or not distract each other from our thoughts, but still be in each others company with the ability to share thoughts with one another, without over-doing it. I like going over to my friend's house where its pretty silent and irritant free, its rather dim, you can kind of get lost, but basically you're able to relax and have your own space, and you don't have to commit to people. You can go in and out and it's not like its some big deal that you're starting up the conversation again or disconnecting.

    I think ENTps are able to fit this profile pretty well, because they're Fi-PoLR so they're not really concerned with maintaining communication or keeping a close eye on connectivity, or caring much when something else comes up and there's a disconnect. Then especially the fact that they're static types and need to focus more on their thoughts, and Si-valuing they're not-decisive types, so they're naturally more relaxed and aren't of the mindset that they need to do something right away. I can picture more extroverted ENTps who talk a lot maybe going overboard and getting on my nerves, but they're pretty socially-conscious people because of Fe, they're just not always very interested in the social aspect, which is why I think they don't typically seem that extroverted, and are usually good at blending in by kind of fading out in to their head.

    What do you think?

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    I couldn't care less about business, money, and work-related accomplishments

    I'm definitely some F PoLR though, and logical ego. I have a difficult time with people who are emotive or trying to get some feeling out of me by playing with me, making comments, hugging or gesturing, all this kind of stuff I try to ignore even though I'm usually conscious of it, I'm actually rather disgusted and uncomfortable by that sort of thing, so I'd have a hard time believing I'm DS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I'm definitely some F PoLR though, and logical ego. I have a difficult time with people who are emotive or trying to get some feeling out of me all the time by playing with me, making comments, hugging, I'm actually rather disgusted and uncomfortable by that sort of thing, so I'd have a hard time believing I'm DS.
    This kind of difficulties definitely are Fe-PoLR related. I can't really see an ENTp being disgusted by these kind of things most of the time. You beeing disgusted by Fe would be my educated guess.

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    Maybe we should attach Ni subtype to him like we once did?
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    OK, thanks.
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    I also have this thing, like repressed emotion, where I make different noises and voices at animals, like my dog, and I yell at him and talk funny to him because I'm bored, and I sometimes go crazy, but he's fine with it by now. And sometimes if I'm alone with my friend, I might yell things at the neighborhood because we're goofing off. Sometimes he tells me to stop, sometimes he thinks its hilarious and I feel like we're doing better with one another because he's having fun and I get to be spontaneous and let loose a bit, it's like that impulse when you're really feeling good and no one is stopping you from doing something silly because they're close to you and you feel comfortable around them. But around people its totally different. I'm emotionally reserved, and I would feel really awkward if I did something like that, and basically any kind of observable communicable emotional involvement I'm just not there, along with most internal feeling. There's often a quite different mindset going around with us, and I've been best friends with him since 1st grade. He's usually very turned on by emotions, and I'm not at all. He might have gradually influenced me to do it because I'm more spontaneous and free and I naturally would do something different, to make him happier so he could have more fun.

    Edit: but I'm only really spontaneous when I'm by myself, rarely, and I rarely do that kind of stuff. It's just what I do sometimes I guess. It helps let out my suppressed feelings. Am I honest with myself about it? Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Edit: but I'm only really spontaneous when I'm by myself, rarely, and I rarely do that kind of stuff. It's just what I do sometimes I guess. It helps let out my suppressed feelings. Am I honest with myself about it? Yes.
    You say you rarely do spontaneous, random stuff. But, how often do you think about being spontaneous and random? I hope I'm making sense...

    A fellow IEE pointed out to me, that for the Ne base, it is our psyche that is extraverted and playful. That is, in our minds we often think about new and sensational ways to interact with our environment, but we may rarely follow through with those impulses for one reason or another (people would look at us funny, or we can foresee possible adverse effects, whatever). But the point is, we have those sorts of thoughts a lot, and they often seem to come out of nowhere. Is your seeming spontaneity deliberate and thought-out (more likely indicative of an introverted type), or are you more impulsive when acting in a spontaneous, fun way (more extraverted)?

    Or maybe I'm just totally off-base on all of this, but, it makes sense to me, anway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm
    IDK, people on here don't seem to think ILIs exist and tell me I couldn't be one. I relate most to ILI descriptions...except when they say ILIs are great forecasters, and that they care about business, money, and work-related accomplishments.
    Given how most ILI descriptions focus on the time/forecast/prediction stuff, I'd kinda hope ILIs don't exist either. Always makes me think of those wack-job, nut-case "It's The End Of The World!!!" conspiracy theory folk, or something.

    As for the disinterest in biz/money/work, should descriptions really generalize a whole type's interests? Maybe I'm off, but I thought info-metabolism was more about how we think than a rigid, specific what we think about.

    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm
    I have a difficult time with people who are emotive or trying to get some feeling out of me all the time by playing with me, making comments, hugging, I'm actually rather disgusted and uncomfortable by that sort of thing...
    A couple weeks back when I mentioned my first opinions of you (i.e. that you're the neighborhood critic, cynic, etc.), I think this dynamic is what I was noticing in your posts.

    When certain people flood a thread with over-the-top Fe, you'll sometimes interject a very curt, emotionally cold reply that quickly negates whatever kind of effect they were trying to have on others. FWIW, I really like that you do it; but I guess it suggests your Fe-disgust might be a pretty driving force.

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    Te and business/work/money are overemphasized. Te focuses on how things work and doing things correctly based on external/measurable criteria. Money is often a good measure, but it's not the only measure. It's better to think of it as resources rather than money. Making the most out of the resources you have or having the best effect on the material world in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I'm definitely some F PoLR though, and logical ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm
    What do you think?
    My experience may be more with those "overboard, extroverted ENTps" you mention near the end; but I've often noticed that Fi-PoLRs strongly input something in the people around them. I'm not sure if its Fi, Fe, or even "emotion" per se; but they tend to spark and generate some kind of energy in others. That opposite numbing/calming effect you describe is something I associate a little more with Fe-PoLR. Not only do they "not care" about inputting emotion, but it seems they really don't want to. ENTps, in my experience, would actually like to get emotionally excited with people (temporarily), but aren't confident that they can help make it happen.

    Likely wrong, but that's what I think.

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    Oh really? I guess that makes sense I could see that, but people on here don't seem to think ILIs exist and tell me I couldn't be one. I feel like I equally ignore relationships too, and when acknowledging feelings they're usually my own conscience. I relate the most to ILI descriptions actually heh, except when they say ILIs are great forecasters, and that they care about business, money, and work-related accomplishments. Doesn't really sound like me, but most of the description does. SLI descriptions are usually less fitting.

    Anyway, thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I think ENTps are able to fit this profile pretty well, because they're Fi-PoLR so they're not really concerned with maintaining communication or keeping a close eye on connectivity, or caring much when something else comes up and there's a disconnect. Then especially the fact that they're static types and need to focus more on their thoughts, and Si-valuing they're not-decisive types, so they're naturally more relaxed and aren't of the mindset that they need to do something right away. I can picture more extroverted ENTps who talk a lot maybe going overboard and getting on my nerves, but they're pretty socially-conscious people because of Fe, they're just not always very interested in the social aspect, which is why I think they don't typically seem that extroverted, and are usually good at blending in by kind of fading out in to their head.

    What do you think?
    ENTp's I know are quite sociable and aproachable. They can be harsh with their words as they just disregard who do they talk to. They can also be nerdy and seem outlandish but overall they are quite friendly. They dont seem typically extroverted but it is easier to notice that if you can find out their hobbies, usually they have quite a few and they dont mind to include others into them, I guess they even prefer that (might be wrong on that one). Anyway to sum up ENTp's I know do care about emotional imput if they dont disrespect you or are not feeling akward themselves.
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    All of this sounds like obvious and basic Fe-polr + Ni-base. In other words, you're ILI. Why is there confusion?
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